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GET WHAT THAT WAS ALL ABOUT. WE’RE GOING GET SOME EXPERT HELP WE’RE GOING GET SOME EXPERT HELP ON FIGURE AGATHA OUT IN JUST A ON FIGURE AGATHA OUT IN JUST A MINUTE, A LITTLE BIT LATER ON MINUTE, A LITTLE BIT LATER ON THIS HOUR. THIS HOUR. BUT OF COURSE THE UNBELIEVABLE BUT OF COURSE THE UNBELIEVABLE TURN OF EVENTS IN TODAY’S NEWS TURN OF EVENTS IN TODAY’S NEWS HAPPENED IN FEDERAL COURT IN HAPPENED IN FEDERAL COURT IN WASHINGTON, D.C. IN THE WASHINGTON, D.C. IN THE COURTROOM OF JUDGE EMMET COURTROOM OF JUDGE EMMET SULLIVAN. SULLIVAN. AND THIS JUST DID NOT GO AS AND THIS JUST DID NOT GO AS ANYBODY EXPECTED IT TO. ANYBODY EXPECTED IT TO. SO THIS IS THE FORMER NATIONAL SO THIS IS THE FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER OF THE UNITED SECURITY ADVISER OF THE UNITED STATES APPEARING IN COURT FOR STATES APPEARING IN COURT FOR SENTENCING AFTER HE PLEAD GUILTY SENTENCING AFTER HE PLEAD GUILTY MORE THAN A YEAR AGO AND ENTERED MORE THAN A YEAR AGO AND ENTERED INTO A COOPERATION DEAL WITH THE INTO A COOPERATION DEAL WITH THE SPECIAL COUNSEL’S OFFICE. SPECIAL COUNSEL’S OFFICE. THIS WHOLE THING TODAY, THIS THIS WHOLE THING TODAY, THIS WHOLE SENTENCING TODAY WAS WHOLE SENTENCING TODAY WAS SUPPOSED TO ROLL DOWNHILL. SUPPOSED TO ROLL DOWNHILL. THERE WASN’T EVEN A DIFFERENCE THERE WASN’T EVEN A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION BETWEEN THE OF OPINION BETWEEN THE PROSECUTION AND THE DEFENSE AS PROSECUTION AND THE DEFENSE AS TO WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN TO MIKE TO WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN TO MIKE FLYNN TODAY. FLYNN TODAY. BOTH SIDE SAID HE SHOULD GET BOTH SIDE SAID HE SHOULD GET ZERO JAIL TIME. ZERO JAIL TIME. BUT AMAZINGLY, THAT CONSENSUS BUT AMAZINGLY, THAT CONSENSUS VIEW OF THE DEFENSE AND THE VIEW OF THE DEFENSE AND THE PROSECUTION IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED PROSECUTION IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED TODAY. TODAY. AGAIN, WE WILL GET EXPERT ADVICE AGAIN, WE WILL GET EXPERT ADVICE ON THIS IN JUST A MORNING, BUT ON THIS IN JUST A MORNING, BUT THIS JUST TURNED INTO A TRAIN THIS JUST TURNED INTO A TRAIN WRECK FOR MIKE FLYNN, AND MORE WRECK FOR MIKE FLYNN, AND MORE BROADLY FOR SUPPORTERS OF THE BROADLY FOR SUPPORTERS OF THE PRESIDENT, PARTICULARLY PRESIDENT, PARTICULARLY CONSERVATIVE MEDIA AND ON CONSERVATIVE MEDIA AND ON CAPITOL HILL WHO HAD TRIED TO CAPITOL HILL WHO HAD TRIED TO TURN ELEMENTS TELEPHONE MUELLER TURN ELEMENTS TELEPHONE MUELLER INVESTIGATION INTO SOME SORT OF INVESTIGATION INTO SOME SORT OF INDICTMENT OF THE FBI, INTO SOME INDICTMENT OF THE FBI, INTO SOME SORT OF SCANDAL ABOUT THE FBI SORT OF SCANDAL ABOUT THE FBI AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. THAT TOOK A MAJOR HIT TODAY. THAT TOOK A MAJOR HIT TODAY. I MEAN, THIS WAS — THIS WAS I MEAN, THIS WAS — THIS WAS JUST A — I MEAN WE KNEW THERE JUST A — I MEAN WE KNEW THERE WAS A LITTLE ELEMENT OF WAS A LITTLE ELEMENT OF UNPREDICTABILITY HERE, BUT THIS UNPREDICTABILITY HERE, BUT THIS WENT WAY, WAY OFF THE RAILS, WENT WAY, WAY OFF THE RAILS, EVEN BEFORE WE GOT TO THE PART EVEN BEFORE WE GOT TO THE PART WHERE EVERYBODY IN THE COURTROOM WHERE EVERYBODY IN THE COURTROOM KEPT SAYING THE WORD “TREASON” KEPT SAYING THE WORD “TREASON” OVER AND OVER AGAIN. OVER AND OVER AGAIN. BUT THIS IS HOW IT STARTED. BUT THIS IS HOW IT STARTED. THE JUDGE, GOOD MORNING. THE JUDGE, GOOD MORNING. THE COURTROOM CLERK, GOOD THE COURTROOM CLERK, GOOD MORNING, YOUR HONOR. MORNING, YOUR HONOR. THE JUDGE, GOOD MORNING. THE JUDGE, GOOD MORNING. YOUR HONOR, THIS IS CRIMINAL YOUR HONOR, THIS IS CRIMINAL CASE 17-232, UNITED STATES OF CASE 17-232, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA VERSUS MICHAEL FLYNN. AMERICA VERSUS MICHAEL FLYNN. WILL ALL PARTIES PLEASE COME WILL ALL PARTIES PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THIS LECTERN AND FORWARD TO THIS LECTERN AND IDENTIFY YOURSELVES FOR THE IDENTIFY YOURSELVES FOR THE RECORD. RECORD. MR. VAN GRACK, GOVERNOR, YOUR MR. VAN GRACK, GOVERNOR, YOUR HONOR, BRANDON VAN GRACK ON HONOR, BRANDON VAN GRACK ON BEHALF OF THE UNITED STATES. BEHALF OF THE UNITED STATES. WITH ME AT COUNSEL’S TAIL ABOUT WITH ME AT COUNSEL’S TAIL ABOUT TABLE IS ZAINAB AHMED AND TABLE IS ZAINAB AHMED AND WILLIAM McCAUSLAND FOR THE FBI. WILLIAM McCAUSLAND FOR THE FBI. THE GOUG SAYS GOOD MORNING, THE GOUG SAYS GOOD MORNING, COUNSEL. COUNSEL. MS. AAAHMAD SAYS GOOD MORNING. MS. AAAHMAD SAYS GOOD MORNING. THE JUDGE SAYS, ALL RIGHT, GOOD THE JUDGE SAYS, ALL RIGHT, GOOD MORNING. MORNING. GOOD MORNING, COUNSEL. GOOD MORNING, COUNSEL. AND THEN THE JUDGE SAYS, MR. AND THEN THE JUDGE SAYS, MR. FLYNN, GOOD MORNING, HOW ARE FLYNN, GOOD MORNING, HOW ARE YOU? YOU? AND THEN THE DEFENDANT, MICHAEL AND THEN THE DEFENDANT, MICHAEL FLYNN SAYS, GOOD. FLYNN SAYS, GOOD. THE JUDGE, ALL RIGHT. THE JUDGE, ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS CASE IN A VERY UNIQUE THIS IS CASE IN A VERY UNIQUE POSTURE. POSTURE. JUDGE SULLIVAN SAYS, QUOTE, I JUDGE SULLIVAN SAYS, QUOTE, I READ EVERY FILING VERY CAREFULLY READ EVERY FILING VERY CAREFULLY IN THIS CASE. IN THIS CASE. THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF NONPUBLIC INFORMATION IN THIS NONPUBLIC INFORMATION IN THIS CASE, AND I’LL JUST LEAVE IT AT CASE, AND I’LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. THAT. IF ANY OF MY QUESTIONS REQUIRE A IF ANY OF MY QUESTIONS REQUIRE A PARTY TO DISCLOSE NONPUBLIC PARTY TO DISCLOSE NONPUBLIC INFORMATION, OR IF I BEGIN TO INFORMATION, OR IF I BEGIN TO DISCUSS SOMETHING NONPUBLIC, DISCUSS SOMETHING NONPUBLIC, DON’T BE SHY IN TELLING ME. DON’T BE SHY IN TELLING ME. MY CLERKS OVER THE YEARS HAVE MY CLERKS OVER THE YEARS HAVE LEARNED TO DO THIS. LEARNED TO DO THIS. AND BECAUSE WE JUST GOT A AND BECAUSE WE JUST GOT A TRANSCRIPT, HE MAKES SOME SORT TRANSCRIPT, HE MAKES SOME SORT OF GESTURE. OF GESTURE. IF I GET OFF THE SCRIPT OR GET IF I GET OFF THE SCRIPT OR GET INTO AREAS, I WON’T BE OFFENDED. INTO AREAS, I WON’T BE OFFENDED. I MAY NOT SEE YOU. I MAY NOT SEE YOU. STAND UP OR SAY SOMETHING. STAND UP OR SAY SOMETHING. I DON’T WANT TO UNINTENTIONALLY I DON’T WANT TO UNINTENTIONALLY SAY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NOT BE SAY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NOT BE REVEALED ON THE PUBLIC DOCKET. REVEALED ON THE PUBLIC DOCKET. SO THIS IS RIGHT AT THE OUTSET SO THIS IS RIGHT AT THE OUTSET OF TODAY’S HEARING, AND THIS IS OF TODAY’S HEARING, AND THIS IS A REALLY GOOD REMINDER RIGHT AT A REALLY GOOD REMINDER RIGHT AT THE OUTSET THAT ALL OF THOSE THE OUTSET THAT ALL OF THOSE REDACTIONS WE HAVE SEEN IN THE REDACTIONS WE HAVE SEEN IN THE COURT FILINGS IN MIKE FLYNN’S COURT FILINGS IN MIKE FLYNN’S CASE, ALL THOSE BIG BLACK BARS, CASE, ALL THOSE BIG BLACK BARS, THOSE THINGS ARE REDACTED TO US THOSE THINGS ARE REDACTED TO US THE PUBLIC, BUT THEY’RE NOT THE PUBLIC, BUT THEY’RE NOT REDACTED TO THE JUDGE. REDACTED TO THE JUDGE. HE HAS SEEN THE NONPUBLIC HE HAS SEEN THE NONPUBLIC INFORMATION. INFORMATION. HE HAS SEEN THE UNREDACTED HE HAS SEEN THE UNREDACTED EXPLANATION OF THE KINDS OF EXPLANATION OF THE KINDS OF COOPERATION THAT FLYNN HAS COOPERATION THAT FLYNN HAS OFFERED TO THE SPECIAL COUNSEL, OFFERED TO THE SPECIAL COUNSEL, THE CASES THAT HE HAS HELPED THE CASES THAT HE HAS HELPED WITH. WITH. THE JUDGE HAS ALSO SEEN THE THE JUDGE HAS ALSO SEEN THE FBI’S UNREDACTED NOTES ABOUT FBI’S UNREDACTED NOTES ABOUT THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH FLYNN THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH FLYNN AND ABOUT HIM LYING TO THE FBI. AND ABOUT HIM LYING TO THE FBI. AND WE REALLY DO NOT KNOW AS AND WE REALLY DO NOT KNOW AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHAT’S MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHAT’S BEHIND THOSE BLACK REDACTING BEHIND THOSE BLACK REDACTING BARS. BARS. BUT WHO KNOWS? BUT WHO KNOWS? MAYBE WHAT’S BEHIND THOSE BLACK MAYBE WHAT’S BEHIND THOSE BLACK BARS IS WHAT CONTRIBUTED TO THIS BARS IS WHAT CONTRIBUTED TO THIS JUDGE GOING OFF LIKE A VOLCANO JUDGE GOING OFF LIKE A VOLCANO TODAY ABOUT THE SERIOUSNESS AND TODAY ABOUT THE SERIOUSNESS AND THE TERRIBLENESS OF MIKE FLYNN’S THE TERRIBLENESS OF MIKE FLYNN’S BEHAVIOR. BEHAVIOR. I’M GOING TO CUT TO THE CHASE I’M GOING TO CUT TO THE CHASE HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS THE PART HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS THE PART YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT TODAY, IF YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT TODAY, IF YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT ANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT ANY OF THIS. THIS. THE JUDGE, SPEAKING TO MICHAEL THE JUDGE, SPEAKING TO MICHAEL FLYNN, THE DEFENDANT AT THIS FLYNN, THE DEFENDANT AT THIS POINT. POINT. THE JUDGE, QUOTE, I’M GOING TO THE JUDGE, QUOTE, I’M GOING TO BE VERY FRANK WITH YOU. BE VERY FRANK WITH YOU. THIS CRIME IS VERY SERIOUS. THIS CRIME IS VERY SERIOUS. IT INVOLVES FALSE STATEMENTS TO IT INVOLVES FALSE STATEMENTS TO THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION AGENTS ON THE INVESTIGATION AGENTS ON THE PREMISESES OF THE WHITE HOUSE, PREMISESES OF THE WHITE HOUSE, IN THE WEST WING BY A IN THE WEST WING BY A HIGH-RANKING SECURITY OFFICER HIGH-RANKING SECURITY OFFICER WITH UP TO THAT POINT AN WITH UP TO THAT POINT AN UNBLEMISHED CAREER OF SERVICE TO UNBLEMISHED CAREER OF SERVICE TO HIS COUNTRY THAT IS A VERY HIS COUNTRY THAT IS A VERY SERIOUS OFFENSE. SERIOUS OFFENSE. YOU KNOW, I’M GOING TO TAKE INTO YOU KNOW, I’M GOING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE 33 YEARS OF CONSIDERATION THE 33 YEARS OF SERVICE AND SACRIFICE AND TAKE SERVICE AND SACRIFICE AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE INTO CONSIDERATION THE SUBSTANTIAL ASSISTANCE OF SUBSTANTIAL ASSISTANCE OF SEVERAL ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS, SEVERAL ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS, BUT I’M ALSO GOING TO TAKE INTO BUT I’M ALSO GOING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE AGGRAVATING CONSIDERATION THE AGGRAVATING CIRCUMSTANCES, AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES, AND THE AGGRAVATING CIRCUMSTANCES ARE AGGRAVATING CIRCUMSTANCES ARE SERIOUS. SERIOUS. NOT ONLY DID YOU LIE TO THE FBI, NOT ONLY DID YOU LIE TO THE FBI, BUT YOU LIED TO SENIOR OFFICIALS BUT YOU LIED TO SENIOR OFFICIALS IN THE TRUMP TRANSITION TEAM AND IN THE TRUMP TRANSITION TEAM AND ADMINISTRATION. ADMINISTRATION. THOSE LIES CAUSED THE THEN VICE THOSE LIES CAUSED THE THEN VICE PRESIDENT-ELECT, THE INCOMING PRESIDENT-ELECT, THE INCOMING CHIEF OF STAFF, AND THE THEN CHIEF OF STAFF, AND THE THEN PRESS SECRETARY TO LIE TO THE PRESS SECRETARY TO LIE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AMERICAN PEOPLE. MOREOVER, YOU LIED TO THE FBI MOREOVER, YOU LIED TO THE FBI ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT TOPICS, ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT TOPICS, AND YOU MADE THOSE FALSE AND YOU MADE THOSE FALSE STATEMENTS WHILE YOU WERE STATEMENTS WHILE YOU WERE SERVING AS THE NATIONAL SECURITY SERVING AS THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER, THE PRESIDENT OF THE ADVISER, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES’ MOST SERIOUS UNITED STATES’ MOST SERIOUS SECURITY AIDE. SECURITY AIDE. I CANNOT MINIMIZE THAT. I CANNOT MINIMIZE THAT. TWO MONTHS LATER YOU AGAIN MADE TWO MONTHS LATER YOU AGAIN MADE SFLS STATEMENTS IN MULTIPLE SFLS STATEMENTS IN MULTIPLE DOCUMENTS. DOCUMENTS. ALL ALONG YOU WERE AN ALL ALONG YOU WERE AN UNREGISTERED AGENT OF A FOREIGN UNREGISTERED AGENT OF A FOREIGN COUNTRY WHILE SERVING AS A COUNTRY WHILE SERVING AS A NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. I MEAN, ARGUABLY, THAT I MEAN, ARGUABLY, THAT UNDERMINES EVERYTHING THIS FLAG UNDERMINES EVERYTHING THIS FLAG OVER HERE STANDS FOR. OVER HERE STANDS FOR. AT WHICH POINT HE SWIVELS IN HIS AT WHICH POINT HE SWIVELS IN HIS CHAIR AND POINTS AT THE AMERICAN CHAIR AND POINTS AT THE AMERICAN FLAG IN THE CORNER OF HIS FLAG IN THE CORNER OF HIS COURTROOM. COURTROOM. THE JUDGE CONTINUES, ARGUABLY, THE JUDGE CONTINUES, ARGUABLY, YOU SOLD YOUR COUNTRY OUT. YOU SOLD YOUR COUNTRY OUT. THE COURT IS GOING TO CONSIDER THE COURT IS GOING TO CONSIDER ALL OF THAT. ALL OF THAT. I CANNOT ASSURE YOU THAT IF YOU I CANNOT ASSURE YOU THAT IF YOU PROCEED TODAY, YOU WILL NOT PROCEED TODAY, YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE A SENTENCE OF RECEIVE A SENTENCE OF INCARCERATION. INCARCERATION. I CANNOT MAKE ANY GUARANTEES, I CANNOT MAKE ANY GUARANTEES, BUT I AM NOT HIDING MY DISGUST, BUT I AM NOT HIDING MY DISGUST, MY DISDAIN FOR THIS CRIMINAL MY DISDAIN FOR THIS CRIMINAL OFFENSE. OFFENSE. THE DEFENDANT, MICHAEL FLYNN, THE DEFENDANT, MICHAEL FLYNN, YES, YOUR HONOR. YES, YOUR HONOR. THE JUDGE, BUT IT’S YOUR CALL, THE JUDGE, BUT IT’S YOUR CALL, MR. FLYNN. MR. FLYNN. I’M JUST BEING UP-FRONT WITH I’M JUST BEING UP-FRONT WITH YOU, AS I WOULD WITH ANYONE YOU, AS I WOULD WITH ANYONE ELSE, AND EVERYONE WHO KNOWS ME, ELSE, AND EVERYONE WHO KNOWS ME, KNOWS THAT. KNOWS THAT. IF YOU WANT TO PROCEED TO IF YOU WANT TO PROCEED TO SENTENCING TODAY, I CAN NOT SENTENCING TODAY, I CAN NOT PROMISE ANYTHING OTHER THAN I’LL PROMISE ANYTHING OTHER THAN I’LL GIVE FULL CONSIDERATION TO GIVE FULL CONSIDERATION TO ANYTHING YOU WISH TO SAY, IF YOU ANYTHING YOU WISH TO SAY, IF YOU WANT TO STAY ANYTHING AT ALL. WANT TO STAY ANYTHING AT ALL. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? THE DEFENDANT, MICHAEL FLYNN, THE DEFENDANT, MICHAEL FLYNN, YES, SIR. YES, SIR. THE JUDGE, BUT IF YOU WANT SOME THE JUDGE, BUT IF YOU WANT SOME MORE TIME AND TO COME BACK LATER MORE TIME AND TO COME BACK LATER AFTER IT’S CLEAR THAT YOU’VE AFTER IT’S CLEAR THAT YOU’VE DONE EVERYTHING YOU POSSIBLY CAN DONE EVERYTHING YOU POSSIBLY CAN FOR THE UNITED STATES OF FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, I’M GOING TO GRANT THAT AMERICA, I’M GOING TO GRANT THAT REQUEST. REQUEST. NOW, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A NOW, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A RECESS NOW AND TALK TO YOUR RECESS NOW AND TALK TO YOUR ATTORNEYS, I’M HAPPY TO ATTORNEYS, I’M HAPPY TO ACCOMMODATE YOU IN THAT REGARD ACCOMMODATE YOU IN THAT REGARD AS WELL. AS WELL. WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT? THE DEFENDANT, MICHAEL FLYNN, THE DEFENDANT, MICHAEL FLYNN, YES, YOUR HONOR. YES, YOUR HONOR. SO AT THIS — THAT POINT IN THE SO AT THIS — THAT POINT IN THE PROCEEDINGS TODAY, EVERYBODY PROCEEDINGS TODAY, EVERYBODY KNOWS ALL BETS ARE OFF. KNOWS ALL BETS ARE OFF. HEADING INTO TODAY’S SENTENCING, HEADING INTO TODAY’S SENTENCING, MIKE FLYNN’S DEFENSE LAWYERS AND MIKE FLYNN’S DEFENSE LAWYERS AND THE PROSECUTORS FROM THE SPECIAL THE PROSECUTORS FROM THE SPECIAL COUNSEL’S OFFICE, THEY HAD BOTH COUNSEL’S OFFICE, THEY HAD BOTH ARGUED THAT FLYNN SHOULD RECEIVE ARGUED THAT FLYNN SHOULD RECEIVE ZERO JAIL TIME. ZERO JAIL TIME. BUT, OF COURSE, EVERYBODY KNOWS BUT, OF COURSE, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT IT’S NOT A CONSENSUS THING. THAT IT’S NOT A CONSENSUS THING. IT IS ULTIMATELY UP TO THE IT IS ULTIMATELY UP TO THE JUDGE. JUDGE. AND HERE’S THE JUDGE, SURPRISE, AND HERE’S THE JUDGE, SURPRISE, IN OPEN COURT, FLAT-OUT WARNING IN OPEN COURT, FLAT-OUT WARNING FLYNN, I CANNOT ASSURE YOU THAT FLYNN, I CANNOT ASSURE YOU THAT IF YOU PROCEED TODAY, YOU WILL IF YOU PROCEED TODAY, YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE A SENTENCE OF NOT RECEIVE A SENTENCE OF INCARCERATION. INCARCERATION. THERE ARE SIX DIFFERENT THERE ARE SIX DIFFERENT INSTANCES IN TODAY’S SENTENCING INSTANCES IN TODAY’S SENTENCING HEARING WHERE THE JUDGE SAYS TO HEARING WHERE THE JUDGE SAYS TO FLYNN AND HIS LAWYERS, “ARE YOU FLYNN AND HIS LAWYERS, “ARE YOU SURE YOU REALLY WANT ME TO SURE YOU REALLY WANT ME TO SENTENCE YOU TODAY? SENTENCE YOU TODAY? ARE YOU SURE YOU DON’T WANT TO ARE YOU SURE YOU DON’T WANT TO RETHINK THAT”? RETHINK THAT”? ON THE BASIS OF WHAT I’VE GOT IN ON THE BASIS OF WHAT I’VE GOT IN FRONT OF ME, YOU WANT ME TO FRONT OF ME, YOU WANT ME TO SENTENCE YOU TODAY? SENTENCE YOU TODAY? ARE YOU SURE? ARE YOU SURE? SIX TIMES. SIX TIMES. THE JUDGE EVEN TELLS FLYNN AT THE JUDGE EVEN TELLS FLYNN AT ONE POINT, HEY, LOOK, I’VE SET ONE POINT, HEY, LOOK, I’VE SET UP A PRIVATE ROOM FOR YOU THE UP A PRIVATE ROOM FOR YOU THE TALK TO YOUR LAWYERS TODAY ABOUT TALK TO YOUR LAWYERS TODAY ABOUT WHETHER YOU REALLY, REALLY TRULY WHETHER YOU REALLY, REALLY TRULY WANT ME TO SENTENCE YOU TODAY. WANT ME TO SENTENCE YOU TODAY. AND FLYNN AND HIS LAWYERS, ONE AND FLYNN AND HIS LAWYERS, ONE TIMES, TWO TIMES, THREE TIMES, TIMES, TWO TIMES, THREE TIMES, FOUR TIMES, FIVE TIMES SAY NOPE, FOUR TIMES, FIVE TIMES SAY NOPE, JUDGE, WE’RE GOOD. JUDGE, WE’RE GOOD. LET’S GO AHEAD. LET’S GO AHEAD. UNTIL AFTER THE PART WHERE THE UNTIL AFTER THE PART WHERE THE JUDGE SAYS TO FLYNN THAT HE’S JUDGE SAYS TO FLYNN THAT HE’S DISGUSTED WITH AND HAS DISDAIN DISGUSTED WITH AND HAS DISDAIN FOR FLYNN’S OFFENSE, AND HE FOR FLYNN’S OFFENSE, AND HE TELLS FLYNN HOW HE SOLD OUT HIS TELLS FLYNN HOW HE SOLD OUT HIS COUNTRY. COUNTRY. AND HOW HE HAS UNDERMINED THIS AND HOW HE HAS UNDERMINED THIS FLAG OVER HERE, AND HE TURNS AND FLAG OVER HERE, AND HE TURNS AND POINTS. POINTS. AND AT THAT POINT, YEAH, FLYNN AND AT THAT POINT, YEAH, FLYNN DECIDES, OKAY, ACTUALLY, SIR, I DECIDES, OKAY, ACTUALLY, SIR, I KNOW I SAID NO FIVE TIMES, BUT KNOW I SAID NO FIVE TIMES, BUT I’M GOING TAKE YOU UP ON THAT I’M GOING TAKE YOU UP ON THAT OFFER TO MAYBE NOT GO AHEAD WITH OFFER TO MAYBE NOT GO AHEAD WITH YOU SENTENCING ME TODAY. YOU SENTENCING ME TODAY. SO MICHAEL FLYNN IN THE END SO MICHAEL FLYNN IN THE END DOESN’T GET SENTENCED TODAY. DOESN’T GET SENTENCED TODAY. FLYNN’S LAWYER FINALLY SAYS, FLYNN’S LAWYER FINALLY SAYS, QUOTE, WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST QUOTE, WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE OF SENTENCING, A CONTINUANCE OF SENTENCING, YOUR HONOR. YOUR HONOR. AND SO FLYNN’S COOPERATION WITH AND SO FLYNN’S COOPERATION WITH THE GOVERNMENT WILL CONTINUE AND THE GOVERNMENT WILL CONTINUE AND HIS CASE, THE SENTENCING IN HIS HIS CASE, THE SENTENCING IN HIS CASE WILL BE CONTINUED FOR CASE WILL BE CONTINUED FOR ANOTHER FEW MONTHS. ANOTHER FEW MONTHS. HE’LL BE BACK PRESUMABLY SOME HE’LL BE BACK PRESUMABLY SOME TIME IN MARCH TO GO BEFORE THIS TIME IN MARCH TO GO BEFORE THIS JUDGE AGAIN AND TALK IT OVER JUDGE AGAIN AND TALK IT OVER AGAIN, MAYBE UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES AGAIN, MAYBE UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WOULDN’T MAKE THE JUDGE THAT WOULDN’T MAKE THE JUDGE EXPLODE IN FRONT OF AN OPEN EXPLODE IN FRONT OF AN OPEN COURTROOM ABOUT HOW HE FEELS COURTROOM ABOUT HOW HE FEELS ABOUT MIKE FLYNN’S BEHAVIOR. ABOUT MIKE FLYNN’S BEHAVIOR. NOW THE LEGAL RATIONALE FROM THE NOW THE LEGAL RATIONALE FROM THE JUDGE TODAY FOR NOT SENTENCING JUDGE TODAY FOR NOT SENTENCING MIKE FLYNN TODAY, IT’S A LEGAL MIKE FLYNN TODAY, IT’S A LEGAL RATIONALE BASICALLY FROM THE RATIONALE BASICALLY FROM THE JUDGE IN WHICH HE PERSUADED JUDGE IN WHICH HE PERSUADED FLYNN AND HIS LAWYERS TO GO FLYNN AND HIS LAWYERS TO GO ALONG WITH, THAT WAS THE IDEA ALONG WITH, THAT WAS THE IDEA THAT MAYBE THERE IS A LITTLE THAT MAYBE THERE IS A LITTLE MORE THAT FLYNN COULD DO TO HELP MORE THAT FLYNN COULD DO TO HELP OUT THE PROSECUTION HERE. OUT THE PROSECUTION HERE. REMEMBER, MUELLER’S OFFICE, THE REMEMBER, MUELLER’S OFFICE, THE SPECIAL COUNSEL’S OFFICE SPECIAL COUNSEL’S OFFICE RECOMMENDED NO JAIL TIME FOR RECOMMENDED NO JAIL TIME FOR FLYNN, NOT BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T FLYNN, NOT BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T SAY HE COMMITTED SERIOUS SAY HE COMMITTED SERIOUS OFFENSES. OFFENSES. THEY ASSERTED TO THE COURT THAT THEY ASSERTED TO THE COURT THAT IN FACT MIKE FLYNN COMMITTED IN FACT MIKE FLYNN COMMITTED SERIOUS CRIMES, BUT THEY SAID SERIOUS CRIMES, BUT THEY SAID THAT IS OUTWEIGHED BY WHAT A THAT IS OUTWEIGHED BY WHAT A GREAT COOPERATOR HE HAS BEEN, GREAT COOPERATOR HE HAS BEEN, HELPING THEM WITH ALL THESE HELPING THEM WITH ALL THESE OTHER CASES. OTHER CASES. AND THE JUDGE TODAY WAS YOU KNOW AND THE JUDGE TODAY WAS YOU KNOW HOWEVER GOOD HE’S BEEN AS A HOWEVER GOOD HE’S BEEN AS A COOPERATOR, YOU’RE GOING TO NEED COOPERATOR, YOU’RE GOING TO NEED TO ADD SOME MORE COOPERATION TO TO ADD SOME MORE COOPERATION TO THAT SIDE OF THE SCALE TO THAT SIDE OF THE SCALE TO BALANCE OUT HIS CRIMES, BECAUSE BALANCE OUT HIS CRIMES, BECAUSE HIS CLIMBS TO MY MIND ARE HIS CLIMBS TO MY MIND ARE UNBELIEVABLY BAD. UNBELIEVABLY BAD. SO HE’S DEFINITELY SHOCKING MIKE SO HE’S DEFINITELY SHOCKING MIKE FLYNN AND HIS DEFENSE LAWYERS FLYNN AND HIS DEFENSE LAWYERS TODAY. TODAY. HE ALSO SEEMS TO SORT OF BE HE ALSO SEEMS TO SORT OF BE SHOCKING THE PROSECUTORS. SHOCKING THE PROSECUTORS. AND HERE’S WHERE WE GOT SOME OF AND HERE’S WHERE WE GOT SOME OF THE NEWS THAT WAS MADE TODAY, THE NEWS THAT WAS MADE TODAY, MADE IN OPEN COURT. MADE IN OPEN COURT. SO THIS IS THE JUDGE ASKING THE SO THIS IS THE JUDGE ASKING THE PROSECUTORS ABOUT WHETHER PROSECUTORS ABOUT WHETHER THEY’RE ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT THEY’RE ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT THERE IS NO MORE COOPERATION THERE IS NO MORE COOPERATION THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO SQUEEZE THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO SQUEEZE OUT OF MIKE FLYNN. OUT OF MIKE FLYNN. THE JUDGE SAYS, NOW I’D LIKE TO THE JUDGE SAYS, NOW I’D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE GOVERNMENT FIRST, HEAR FROM THE GOVERNMENT FIRST, WHICH MEANS THE PROSECUTION. WHICH MEANS THE PROSECUTION. WOULD YOU COME FORWARD, COUNSEL, WOULD YOU COME FORWARD, COUNSEL, TO THE MICROPHONE? TO THE MICROPHONE? THE JUDGE SAYS AGAIN, I’M NOT THE JUDGE SAYS AGAIN, I’M NOT INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO INTRUDE INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO INTRUDE ON MATTERS THAT SHOULD NOT BE ON ON MATTERS THAT SHOULD NOT BE ON THE PUBLIC RECORD. THE PUBLIC RECORD. SO I’LL RESPECT YOUR RESISTANCE SO I’LL RESPECT YOUR RESISTANCE TO ANSWER A QUESTION, ALL RIGHT? TO ANSWER A QUESTION, ALL RIGHT? BUT IS MR. FLYNN STILL BUT IS MR. FLYNN STILL COOPERATING WITH AND PROVIDING COOPERATING WITH AND PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO THE GOVERNMENT? ASSISTANCE TO THE GOVERNMENT? PROSECUTOR BRANDON VAN GRACK. PROSECUTOR BRANDON VAN GRACK. YOUR HONOR, IT REMAINS A YOUR HONOR, IT REMAINS A POSSIBILITY THAT GENERAL FLYNN POSSIBILITY THAT GENERAL FLYNN IS CONTINUING TO COOPERATE WITH IS CONTINUING TO COOPERATE WITH THE GOVERNMENT AT THIS TIME. THE GOVERNMENT AT THIS TIME. THE JUDGE SAYS ALL RIGHT, IT’S A THE JUDGE SAYS ALL RIGHT, IT’S A POSSIBILITY? POSSIBILITY? MR. VAN GRACK, YES, YOUR HONOR. MR. VAN GRACK, YES, YOUR HONOR. THE JUDGE, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT THE JUDGE, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT THE COURT WILL WAIT UNTIL THIS THE COURT WILL WAIT UNTIL THIS PERPETRATOR HAS FINISHED. PERPETRATOR HAS FINISHED. THIS PERSON HAS TESTIFIED IN THE THIS PERSON HAS TESTIFIED IN THE GRAND JURY OR PLEAS ENTERED. GRAND JURY OR PLEAS ENTERED. THERE IS NOTHING ELSE HE CAN DO THERE IS NOTHING ELSE HE CAN DO TO HELP US. TO HELP US. BUT IN THIS CASE THERE IS STILL BUT IN THIS CASE THERE IS STILL A LIKELIHOOD THAT HE COULD HELP, A LIKELIHOOD THAT HE COULD HELP, CORRECT? CORRECT? THE PROSECUTOR THEN SAYS, YES, THE PROSECUTOR THEN SAYS, YES, BUT, QUOTE, THE DEFENDANT HAS BUT, QUOTE, THE DEFENDANT HAS PROVIDED THE VAST MAJORITY OF PROVIDED THE VAST MAJORITY OF CONSIDERATION THAT COULD BE CONSIDERATION THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED. CONSIDERED. SO THIS IS THE JUDGE BEING LIKE SO THIS IS THE JUDGE BEING LIKE TELL ME HE’S NOT AT THE END OF TELL ME HE’S NOT AT THE END OF COOPERATING. COOPERATING. TELL ME HE’S GOT SOMETHING ELSE TELL ME HE’S GOT SOMETHING ELSE HE CAN TELL YOU. HE CAN TELL YOU. HE’S GOT SOMETHING ELSE HE CAN HE’S GOT SOMETHING ELSE HE CAN GIVE YOU. GIVE YOU. BECAUSE THE COOPERATION HE’S BECAUSE THE COOPERATION HE’S GIVEN YOU THUS FAR IS WHAT I’M GIVEN YOU THUS FAR IS WHAT I’M SUPPOSED TO BALANCE AGAINST WHAT SUPPOSED TO BALANCE AGAINST WHAT I CAN SEE ABOUT HIS BAD I CAN SEE ABOUT HIS BAD BEHAVIOR. BEHAVIOR. IF HE IS NOT DONE, YOU MIGHT IF HE IS NOT DONE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO WAIT TO HAVE HIM WANT TO WAIT TO HAVE HIM SENTENCED UNTIL AFTER HE’S SENTENCED UNTIL AFTER HE’S TOTALLY DONE, BECAUSE HE’S GOING TOTALLY DONE, BECAUSE HE’S GOING TO NEED EVERY IOTA OF HIS TO NEED EVERY IOTA OF HIS COOPERATION TO BALANCE OUT HOW I COOPERATION TO BALANCE OUT HOW I VIEW HIS CRIMES. VIEW HIS CRIMES. AT THIS POINT, WE GET SOME NEWS, AT THIS POINT, WE GET SOME NEWS, BECAUSE THE PROSECUTORS FROM BECAUSE THE PROSECUTORS FROM MUELLER’S OFFICE, THEY BRING UP MUELLER’S OFFICE, THEY BRING UP TO THE JUDGE UNPROMPTED THE CASE TO THE JUDGE UNPROMPTED THE CASE THAT WE LEARNED ABOUT YESTERDAY, THAT WE LEARNED ABOUT YESTERDAY, AND WE HAD WONDERED IF THIS WAS AND WE HAD WONDERED IF THIS WAS GOING TO COME UP IN FLYNN’S GOING TO COME UP IN FLYNN’S SENTENCING TODAY. SENTENCING TODAY. THIS IS THE CASE JUST UNSEALED THIS IS THE CASE JUST UNSEALED YESTERDAY WHERE FLYNN’S YESTERDAY WHERE FLYNN’S LONG-TIME BUSINESS PARTNER WAS LONG-TIME BUSINESS PARTNER WAS CHARGED WITH MULTIPLE FELONIES. CHARGED WITH MULTIPLE FELONIES. THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO WAS ALSO A THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO WAS ALSO A TRUMP TRANSITION OFFICIAL. TRUMP TRANSITION OFFICIAL. HE WAS THE VICE-CHAIRMAN OF HE WAS THE VICE-CHAIRMAN OF FLYNN’S INTELLIGENCE GROUP, AND FLYNN’S INTELLIGENCE GROUP, AND HELP WAS CHARGED YESTERDAY WITH HELP WAS CHARGED YESTERDAY WITH BEING PART OF A SCHEME ALONG BEING PART OF A SCHEME ALONG WITH MIKE FLYNN, PERSON A IN WITH MIKE FLYNN, PERSON A IN THAT INDICTMENT, HE’S CHARGED THAT INDICTMENT, HE’S CHARGED WITH BEING PART OF A SCHEME TO WITH BEING PART OF A SCHEME TO BASICALLY OPERATE SECRETLY IN BASICALLY OPERATE SECRETLY IN THIS COUNTRY AS PAID FOREIGN THIS COUNTRY AS PAID FOREIGN AGENTS OF THE GOVERNMENT OF AGENTS OF THE GOVERNMENT OF TURKEY WITHOUT EVER DISCLOSING TURKEY WITHOUT EVER DISCLOSING IT. IT. SO PROSECUTORS FROM MUELLER’S SO PROSECUTORS FROM MUELLER’S OFFICE BRING THAT UP TO THE OFFICE BRING THAT UP TO THE JUDGE TODAY AS IF THAT SHOULD JUDGE TODAY AS IF THAT SHOULD HELP FLYNN EVEN MORE. HELP FLYNN EVEN MORE. LOOK, HE HELPED US GET THAT LOOK, HE HELPED US GET THAT INDICTMENT TOO. INDICTMENT TOO. HE’S BEEN SUPER HELPFUL. HE’S BEEN SUPER HELPFUL. HE IS A GREAT COOPERATOR. HE IS A GREAT COOPERATOR. BUT THE JUDGE IMMEDIATELY BUT THE JUDGE IMMEDIATELY BOOMERANGS THAT BACK AT THEM BY BOOMERANGS THAT BACK AT THEM BY SAYING, BASICALLY, YEAH, I SEE SAYING, BASICALLY, YEAH, I SEE HOW HE HELPED YOU GET THAT HOW HE HELPED YOU GET THAT INDICTMENT FILED, BUT FLYNN INDICTMENT FILED, BUT FLYNN PARTICIPATED IN THE CRIME THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE CRIME THAT IS LAID OUT IN THAT INDICTMENT IS LAID OUT IN THAT INDICTMENT TOO. TOO. I MEAN, THE JUDGE SAYS LOOKING I MEAN, THE JUDGE SAYS LOOKING AT THE EVIDENCE OF WHAT FLYNN AT THE EVIDENCE OF WHAT FLYNN HIMSELF DID IN THAT ALLEGED HIMSELF DID IN THAT ALLEGED CRIME, YOU COULD HAVE CHARGED CRIME, YOU COULD HAVE CHARGED HIM FOR THAT. HIM FOR THAT. YOU COULD HAVE LOCKED HIM UP FOR YOU COULD HAVE LOCKED HIM UP FOR THAT TOO, RIGHT? THAT TOO, RIGHT? HERE’S HOW IT GOES. HERE’S HOW IT GOES. PROSECUTOR BRANDON VAN GRACK, PROSECUTOR BRANDON VAN GRACK, QUOTE, WE’D LIKE TO BRING TO THE QUOTE, WE’D LIKE TO BRING TO THE COURT AYE’S ATTENTION THAT WE COURT AYE’S ATTENTION THAT WE JUST HAD AN INDICTMENT UNSEALED JUST HAD AN INDICTMENT UNSEALED CHARGES BIJAN KIAN AND EKIM CHARGES BIJAN KIAN AND EKIM ALPTEKIN. ALPTEKIN. IN OBTAINING THAT CHARGING IN OBTAINING THAT CHARGING DOCUMENT. DOCUMENT. THE JUDGE, ALL RIGHT. THE JUDGE, ALL RIGHT. COULD THE DEFENDANT HAVE BEEN COULD THE DEFENDANT HAVE BEEN INDICTED IN THAT INDICTMENT? INDICTED IN THAT INDICTMENT? COULD HE HAVE BEEN CHARGED IN COULD HE HAVE BEEN CHARGED IN THAT INDICTMENT? THAT INDICTMENT? PROSECUTOR, BRANDON VAN GRACK, PROSECUTOR, BRANDON VAN GRACK, AND, YOUR HONOR, THE ANSWER IS AND, YOUR HONOR, THE ANSWER IS YES. YES. THE JUDGE SAYS YOUR ANSWER IS HE THE JUDGE SAYS YOUR ANSWER IS HE COULD HAVE BEEN CHARGED IN THAT COULD HAVE BEEN CHARGED IN THAT INDICTMENT? INDICTMENT? MR. VAN GRACK, YES, YOUR HONOR. MR. VAN GRACK, YES, YOUR HONOR. THEY THEN TALK ABOUT HOW MANY THEY THEN TALK ABOUT HOW MANY YEARS IN PRISON MIKE FLYNN COULD YEARS IN PRISON MIKE FLYNN COULD HAVE RECEIVED JUST FOR THAT HAVE RECEIVED JUST FOR THAT CRIME IF HE HAD BEEN CHARGED AND CRIME IF HE HAD BEEN CHARGED AND CONVICTED IN THAT CASE THAT WAS CONVICTED IN THAT CASE THAT WAS UNSEALED YESTERDAY IN VIRGINIA. UNSEALED YESTERDAY IN VIRGINIA. THE JUDGE CONCLUDES THAT THE JUDGE CONCLUDES THAT DISCUSSION BY SAYING, QUOTE, THE DISCUSSION BY SAYING, QUOTE, THE EXPOSURE FOR FLYNN WOULD HAVE EXPOSURE FOR FLYNN WOULD HAVE BEEN GRAVE THEN. BEEN GRAVE THEN. EXPOSURE TO MR. FLYNN WOULD HAVE EXPOSURE TO MR. FLYNN WOULD HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT HAD HE BEEN BEEN SIGNIFICANT HAD HE BEEN INDICTED, MEANING HE COULD HAVE INDICTED, MEANING HE COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY RECEIVED MANY YEARS POTENTIALLY RECEIVED MANY YEARS IN PRISON. IN PRISON. MR. VAN GRACK, THE PROSECUTOR, MR. VAN GRACK, THE PROSECUTOR, SAYS YES, YOUR HONOR. SAYS YES, YOUR HONOR. SO THAT IS A REMARKABLE MOMENT. SO THAT IS A REMARKABLE MOMENT. THAT’S THE PROSECUTORS TRYING TO THAT’S THE PROSECUTORS TRYING TO HELP FLYNN OUT HERE. HELP FLYNN OUT HERE. THEY’RE PROSECUTING FLYNN, BUT THEY’RE PROSECUTING FLYNN, BUT THEY’RE TRYING TO HELP HIM OUT. THEY’RE TRYING TO HELP HIM OUT. THEY’RE TELLING THE JUDGE, HEY, THEY’RE TELLING THE JUDGE, HEY, HE HELPED US OUT IN THIS OTHER HE HELPED US OUT IN THIS OTHER CASE. CASE. A AND THE JUDGE IN RESPONSE A AND THE JUDGE IN RESPONSE MAKES THE PROSECUTORS SPELL OUT MAKES THE PROSECUTORS SPELL OUT HOW GUILTY FLYNN MIGHT HAVE BEEN HOW GUILTY FLYNN MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN THAT FELONY CRIMINAL CASE IN THAT FELONY CRIMINAL CASE TOO. TOO. SO THINGS ARE NOT GOING WELL FOR SO THINGS ARE NOT GOING WELL FOR MICHAEL FLYNN HERE. MICHAEL FLYNN HERE. YOU SHOULD ALSO KNOW THAT THE YOU SHOULD ALSO KNOW THAT THE EFFORT BY FLYNN AND HIS LAWYERS EFFORT BY FLYNN AND HIS LAWYERS OVER RECENT DAYS TO ARGUE OVER RECENT DAYS TO ARGUE HEADING INTO TODAY’S SENTENCING HEADING INTO TODAY’S SENTENCING THAT FLYNN WAS KIND OF THE THAT FLYNN WAS KIND OF THE VICTIM HERE, THAT HE DIDN’T VICTIM HERE, THAT HE DIDN’T REALLY MEAN TO LIE TO THE FBI. REALLY MEAN TO LIE TO THE FBI. THE FBI SOMEHOW TRICKED HIM OR THE FBI SOMEHOW TRICKED HIM OR UNFAIRLY BOXED HIM IN TO LYING UNFAIRLY BOXED HIM IN TO LYING INADVERTENTLY, THEY TRIED THAT A INADVERTENTLY, THEY TRIED THAT A LITTLE BIT IN THE DOCUMENT THAT LITTLE BIT IN THE DOCUMENT THAT THEY SUBMITTED TO THE JUDGE THEY SUBMITTED TO THE JUDGE ABOUT FLYNN’S SENTENCING IN ABOUT FLYNN’S SENTENCING IN ADVANCE OF TODAY’S HEARING. ADVANCE OF TODAY’S HEARING. THAT ARGUMENT REALLY DID NOT GO THAT ARGUMENT REALLY DID NOT GO WELL TODAY. WELL TODAY. AND THAT’S IMPORTANT EVEN BEYOND AND THAT’S IMPORTANT EVEN BEYOND JUST THE FATE OF MIKE FLYNN, JUST THE FATE OF MIKE FLYNN, BECAUSE THIS HAS BECOME A REAL BECAUSE THIS HAS BECOME A REAL CAUSE CELEBRE, PARTICULARLY IN CAUSE CELEBRE, PARTICULARLY IN CONSERVATIVE MEDIA. CONSERVATIVE MEDIA. IT WAS EVEN TRUMPETED TODAY FROM IT WAS EVEN TRUMPETED TODAY FROM THE WHITE HOUSE BY WHITE HOUSE THE WHITE HOUSE BY WHITE HOUSE SPOKESWOMAN SARAH SANDERS WHO SPOKESWOMAN SARAH SANDERS WHO REPEATED THOSE CLAIMS, REPEATED THOSE CLAIMS, ESSENTIALLY, ABOUT FLYNN IN HER ESSENTIALLY, ABOUT FLYNN IN HER WORDS BEING AMBUSHED BY THE FBI, WORDS BEING AMBUSHED BY THE FBI, AS IF FLYNN DIDN’T REALLY LIE, AS IF FLYNN DIDN’T REALLY LIE, OR IF HE DID, IT WASN’T HIS OR IF HE DID, IT WASN’T HIS FAULT. FAULT. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THE JUDGE IN IT SHOULD BE NOTED THE JUDGE IN FLYNN’S CASE JUST DESTROYED THAT FLYNN’S CASE JUST DESTROYED THAT ARGUMENT TODAY. ARGUMENT TODAY. HE FORCED FLYNN AND FLYNN’S HE FORCED FLYNN AND FLYNN’S LAWYERS TO DISAVOW ANY CLAIM TO LAWYERS TO DISAVOW ANY CLAIM TO THAT ARGUMENT AND ULTIMATELY THAT ARGUMENT AND ULTIMATELY FLYNN’S LAWYER EVEN APOLOGIZED FLYNN’S LAWYER EVEN APOLOGIZED TO THE JUDGE FOR RAISING IT AT TO THE JUDGE FOR RAISING IT AT ALL. ALL. THE JUDGE, QUOTE, DO YOU BELIEVE THE JUDGE, QUOTE, DO YOU BELIEVE THE FBI HAD A LEGAL OBLIGATION THE FBI HAD A LEGAL OBLIGATION TO WARN MR. FLYNN THAT LYING TO TO WARN MR. FLYNN THAT LYING TO THE FBI WAS A FEDERAL CRIME? THE FBI WAS A FEDERAL CRIME? MR. KELLNER, THE DEFENSE LAWYER, MR. KELLNER, THE DEFENSE LAWYER, NO, YOUR HONOR. NO, YOUR HONOR. WAS IT YOUR CONTENTION THAT MR. WAS IT YOUR CONTENTION THAT MR. FLYNN WAS ENTRAPPED BY THE FBI? FLYNN WAS ENTRAPPED BY THE FBI? KELLNER, THE DEFENSE LAWYER, NO, KELLNER, THE DEFENSE LAWYER, NO, YOUR HONOR. YOUR HONOR. DO YOU BELIEVE HIS RIGHTS WERE DO YOU BELIEVE HIS RIGHTS WERE VIOLATED BY THE FACT HE DIDN’T VIOLATED BY THE FACT HE DIDN’T HAVE A LAWYER PRESENT FOR THE HAVE A LAWYER PRESENT FOR THE INTERVIEW? INTERVIEW? NO, YOUR HONOR. NO, YOUR HONOR. DO YOU BELIEVE HIS RIGHTS WERE DO YOU BELIEVE HIS RIGHTS WERE VIOLATED BY THE FACT HE MAY HAVE VIOLATED BY THE FACT HE MAY HAVE BEEN DISSUADED BY NOT HAVING A BEEN DISSUADED BY NOT HAVING A LAWYER PRESENT FOR THE LAWYER PRESENT FOR THE INTERVIEW? INTERVIEW? NO, YOUR HONOR. NO, YOUR HONOR. THE STATEMENT SENTENCING SAYS THE STATEMENT SENTENCING SAYS THAT REVELATIONS OF CERTAIN FBI THAT REVELATIONS OF CERTAIN FBI OFFICIALS INVOLVED IN THE OFFICIALS INVOLVED IN THE INTERVIEW WERE THEMSELVES BEING INTERVIEW WERE THEMSELVES BEING INTERVIEWED FOR MISCONDUCT. INTERVIEWED FOR MISCONDUCT. IT YOUR CONTENTION THAT ANY IT YOUR CONTENTION THAT ANY MISCONDUCT BY ANY MEMBER OF THE MISCONDUCT BY ANY MEMBER OF THE FBI RAISES ANY DEGREE OF DOUBT FBI RAISES ANY DEGREE OF DOUBT THAT MR. FLYNN INTENTIONALLY THAT MR. FLYNN INTENTIONALLY LIED TO THE FBI? LIED TO THE FBI? KELNER, THE DEFENSE TERN, NO, KELNER, THE DEFENSE TERN, NO, YOUR HONOR. YOUR HONOR. THE REFERENCES THAT I MENTION THE REFERENCES THAT I MENTION THAT APPEAR IN YOUR SENTENCING THAT APPEAR IN YOUR SENTENCING MEMORANDUM RAISE SOME CONCERNS MEMORANDUM RAISE SOME CONCERNS ON THE PART OF THE COURT. ON THE PART OF THE COURT. AND MY QUESTION IS HOW IS AND MY QUESTION IS HOW IS RAISING THOSE CONTENTIONS ABOUT RAISING THOSE CONTENTIONS ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH MR. FLYNN LIED CONSISTENT WITH MR. FLYNN LIED CONSISTENT WITH HIS ACCEPTANCE OF HIS ACCEPTANCE OF RESPONSIBILITY? RESPONSIBILITY? LATER ON IN THE PROCEEDINGS, LATER ON IN THE PROCEEDINGS, THIS IS WHERE FLYNN’S LAWYER THIS IS WHERE FLYNN’S LAWYER ESSENTIALLY DECIDE TO TAKE ESSENTIALLY DECIDE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT HIMSELF RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT HIMSELF AND BASICALLY APOLOGIZE TO THE AND BASICALLY APOLOGIZE TO THE COURT FOR HAVING RAISED IT. COURT FOR HAVING RAISED IT. THE JUDGE SAYS, QUOTE, LET — THE JUDGE SAYS, QUOTE, LET — EXCUSE ME. EXCUSE ME. THE DEFENSE LAWYER SAYS THE THE DEFENSE LAWYER SAYS THE JUDGE, LET ME MAKE VERY CLEAR, JUDGE, LET ME MAKE VERY CLEAR, YOUR HONOR, THAT THE DECISIONS YOUR HONOR, THAT THE DECISIONS HOW TO FRAME GENERAL FLYNN’S HOW TO FRAME GENERAL FLYNN’S SENTENCING MEMORANDUM MADE BY SENTENCING MEMORANDUM MADE BY COUNSEL, MADE BY ME, MADE BY MR. COUNSEL, MADE BY ME, MADE BY MR. ANTHONY, THE OTHER DEFENSE ANTHONY, THE OTHER DEFENSE COUNSEL, THOSE DECISIONS ARE COUNSEL, THOSE DECISIONS ARE ENTIRELY OURS AND REALLY SHOULD ENTIRELY OURS AND REALLY SHOULD NOT AND DO NOT DIMINISH IN ANY NOT AND DO NOT DIMINISH IN ANY WAY GENERAL FLYNN’S ACCEPTANCE WAY GENERAL FLYNN’S ACCEPTANCE OF RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS CASE. OF RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS CASE. AND THE JUDGE THEN SORT OF AND THE JUDGE THEN SORT OF INTERRUPTS AND SAYS THE POINT IS INTERRUPTS AND SAYS THE POINT IS WELL TAKEN, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND WELL TAKEN, BUT YOU UNDERSTAND WHY I HAD TO MAKE THE INQUIRY? WHY I HAD TO MAKE THE INQUIRY? THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY SAYS I DO. THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY SAYS I DO. THE JUDGE, BECAUSE I’M THINKING THE JUDGE, BECAUSE I’M THINKING THIS SOUNDS LIKE A BACKPEDALING THIS SOUNDS LIKE A BACKPEDALING ON THE ACCEPTANCE OF ON THE ACCEPTANCE OF RESPONSIBILITY. RESPONSIBILITY. SO THAT DID NOT WORK. SO THAT DID NOT WORK. MIKE FLYNN AND HIS ATTORNEYS MIKE FLYNN AND HIS ATTORNEYS TODAY DISAVOW AND ESSENTIALLY TODAY DISAVOW AND ESSENTIALLY APOLOGIZE, FOR EVER SUGGESTING APOLOGIZE, FOR EVER SUGGESTING TO THE JUDGE THAT FLYNN WASN’T TO THE JUDGE THAT FLYNN WASN’T REALLY GUILTY, THAT THE FBI WAS REALLY GUILTY, THAT THE FBI WAS SOMEHOW THE REAL CULPRIT HERE. SOMEHOW THE REAL CULPRIT HERE. I MEAN, THAT ALONE CANCELS LIKE I MEAN, THAT ALONE CANCELS LIKE HALF THE SHOWS ON FOX NEWS HALF THE SHOWS ON FOX NEWS TONIGHT. TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO TALK WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT? ABOUT? BUT THERE’S ALSO THE PART WHERE BUT THERE’S ALSO THE PART WHERE EVERYBODY STARTS TALKING ABOUT EVERYBODY STARTS TALKING ABOUT MIKE FLYNN AND TREASON, AND THEY MIKE FLYNN AND TREASON, AND THEY CAN’T STOP SAYING THE WORD CAN’T STOP SAYING THE WORD “TREASON” OVER AND OVER AGAIN. “TREASON” OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THAT’S NEXT, AND THERE’S THAT’S NEXT, AND THERE’S ACTUALLY SOME NEWS THERE THAT

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