INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAIʻI: Who Manages Our Water? | Program


WATER, IT IS NECESSARY IN OUR
DAILY LIVES. AND ACCESS TO WATER IS EASY
BUT, DO YOU KNOW WHERE OUR DRINKING WATER COMES FROM?
WHO CONTROLS WATER RUNOFF DURING HEAVY RAINFALL, AND
WHO HANDLES THE MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WASTEWATER WE
PRODUCE EVERY DAY? WE TAKE IT FOR GRANTED THAT
THERE ARE PLANS FOR THESE WATER RELATED ISSUES, WHAT
ARE THOSE PLANS? TONIGHT’S LIVE BROADCAST AND LIVESTREAM OF INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAIʻI START NOW. [INTRO MUSIC] ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS
ON PBS HAWAIʻI. I’M YUNJI DE NIES.
“IMAGINE A DAY WITHOUT WATER”. THAT’S WHAT THE
HONOLULU BOARD OF WATER SUPPLY WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO AS
A WAY TO BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND HOW CRITICAL FRESH FLOWING
WATER IS TO OUR DAILY LIVES, AND WHY WE SHOULDN’T TAKE IT
FOR GRANTED. WATER MANAGEMENT DOESN’T
BEGIN AND END WITH SAFE DRINKING WATER, WASTEWATER
MUST ALSO BE CAREFULLY MANAGED AND MONITORED TO
ASSURE PROTECTION OF OUR ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC
HEALTH. AND RUNOFF WHEN IT RAINS ALSO
NEEDS TO BE MANAGED. TONIGHT WE’RE GONNA HEAR FROM
THE PEOPLE CHARGED WITH MANAGING THE WATER RESOURCES
ON OAHU. WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR
PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT’S SHOW. YOU CAN EMAIL, CALL OR
TWEET YOUR QUESTIONS. AND YOU’LL FIND A LIVE STREAM OF
THIS PROGRAM AT PBSHAWAII.ORG AND THE PBS HAWAIʻI FACEBOOK
PAGE. NOW, TO OUR GUESTS.
ERNEST LAU IS THE MANAGER AND CHIEF ENGINEER OF THE
HONOLULU BOARD OF WATER SUPPLY. HE HAS WORKED IN
WATER MANAGEMENT AROUND THE STATE FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS.
TIM HOUGHTON IS THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES FOR HONOLULU. HIS DEPARTMENT IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR WASTEWATER AND SOLID WASTE SERVICES FOR
O’AHU. ROSS SASAMURA IS THE DIRECTOR
AND CHIEF ENGINEER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF FACILITY
MAINTENANCE. AMONG OTHER THINGS, HIS DEPARTMENT
OVERSEES THE STORM DRAIN SYSTEM FOR THE CITY.
AND JOSH STANBRO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
HONOLULU’S OFFICE OF CLIMATE CHANGE, SUSTAINABILITY AND
RESILIENCY. THIS OFFICE WAS CREATED IN 2016, AND AMONG
OTHER THINGS, ITS MISSION IS TO INCREASE COMMUNITY
PREPAREDNESS AS WELL AS DEVELOP RESILIENT
INFRASTRUCTURE IN RESPONSE TO CLIMATE CHANGE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
WE TAKE WATER FOR GRANTED. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE
BIGGEST THREAT TO HAVING CLEAN WATER FLOWING IN OUR
HOME AND WASTEWATER FLOWING OUT?
WHAT IS THE BIGGEST THREAT TO THE SYSTEM AND WHAT DOES YOUR
AGENCY DO TO MAKING SURE THAT WE’RE PROTECTED?
>>I THINK THE BIGGEST THREAT ON A LONGTERM IS WHAT CLIMATE
CHANGE MIGHT BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY.
SOURCE OF DRINKING WATER COMES FROM THE RAIN THAT FALLS
ON ON OUR WATERSHEDS, MOUNTAINS.
PATTERNS IN THE RAIN OR INTENSITY OR AMOUNT OF
RAINFALL CHANGES. THAT HAS A DIRECT IMPACTED ON
GROUND WATER RESOURCE. WE DEPEND ON THE GROUND WATER
RESOURCES FOR OUR DRINKING WATER.
>>Yunji: WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BIGGEST THREAT TO
DRINKING WART?>>COMPLACENCY.
LOOKING AT STORMS, RAINFALL, A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK AT TRYING
TO GET RID OF IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
SHOOT IT TO THE STREET, REDIRECT IT SO THAT IT DOESN’T
HARMONY OF THE PROPERTIES OR THEIR HOMES OR STRUCTURES.
REALLY, RAIN WATER IS THE RESOURCE.
AS MUCH AS PURE DRINKING WATER IS, IMPORTANT TO US, ALL OF
THE RAIN WATER THAT WE’RE ABLE TO CAPTURE AND REUSE
ELIMINATES THAT NEED TO GO BACK TO THE POTABLE WATER
RESOURCE AND USE THAT CLEAN, PURE, DRINKING WATER TO
WATERING LAWNS AND DO OTHER THINGS WE COULD USE RECYCLED
RAIN WATER.>>Yunji: ARE WE DOING ENOUGH
TO CAPTURE THAT RAIN WATER.>>I THINK WE CAN DO MORE.
EVERYBODY HAS A ROLE TO DOING THAT, NOT ONLY TO CAPTURE RAIN
WATER BUT ENSURE THAT THE NEARSHORE WATERS ARE CLEAN,
PICKING UP AROUND THE HOUSE, PICKING UP LITTER, PREVENTING
SEDIMENTS ENTERING THE SYSTEM, ENDS UP NEARSHORE
WATERS, RECREATE, FISH AND HAVE FUN.
>>Yunji: WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BIGGEST THREAT TO THE
SYSTEM AND HOW DOES YOUR AGENCY PLAY A PART?
>>FOR US, I THINK IT’S MAKING SURE THAT THIS WATER RESOURCE
IS LOOKED AT AS A WHOLE. IT IS NOT ONE PIECE IT IS A
WHOLE CYCLE. WE’RE IN THE CYCLE WHERE WE
TAKE USED WATER AND COLLECT THAT, TREAT IT, AND
REINTRODUCE IT INTO THE NATURAL SYSTEM.
WHETHER THAT BE THROUGH OCEAN DISCHARGE OR THROUGH GROUND
WATER DISCHARGE, BUT THE IDEA THERE REALLY, TO
ME, IS HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE COLLECT THAT, WE TAKE IT,
TREAT IT, MAKE SURE THAT IT’S READY TO REINTRODUCE INTO THE
SYSTEM, AND IT’S ALSO THAT AS ROSS SUGGESTS, RESOURCE THAT
AS WE NEED IT OVER TIME, CAN BE CONVERTED DIRECTLY INTO ON
ISLAND, REUSE, WHAT WE NEED THAT, SO IT CAN OFFSET THE
POTABLE WATER. WE’RE ALL PART OF THE SAME
CYCLE AND WE STILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE CYCLE EVEN TODAY,
BECAUSE EVAPORATION FEEDS CLOUDS, RAINFALL, WE’RE ALL
PART OF THAT SAME CYCLE.>>Yunji: ERNEST, FLIGHT TIME.
>>I’M SORRY. THAT’S OKAY.
>>Yunji: TELL US HOW YOUR OFFICE IS WORKING TO ADDRESS
THAT?>>I THINK IN TERMS OF LOOK AT
CHALLENGE, CLIMATE CHANGE IS CHANGING THE CONTEXT IN WHICH
WE UTILIZE AND ARE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WATER HERE
ON THE ISLAND. BUT REALLY, WE BUILT
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR MANY YEARS AND THIS IS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY. NOT JUST HERE.
ESSENTIALLY, GET RID OF WATER AS FAST AS WE CAN AND TAKE IT
AWAY WHETHER IT’S WASTEWATER, WHETHER IT’S STORM WATER.
I THINK THE REAL CHALLENGE SO HOW DO WE DESIGN
INFRASTRUCTURE, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE OR GRAY
INFRASTRUCTURE, OR HOWEVER, PIVOTS THAT, AND ABLE TO
CAPTURE THE VALUE OF IT, TIM IS TALKING ABOUT.
HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT IT’S SORT OF ONE WATER APPROACH
WHERE WHATEVER DROP IT, WE VALUE IT FOR THE HIGHEST
POSSIBLE VALUE AND USE IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN BECAUSE WITH
THE CHANGE OF CLIMATE CHANGE, IF WE’RE GETTING BIGGER
DOWNPOURS, MORE SUDDENLY, A LOT OF THAT WATER IS RUNNING
OFF. WE’RE LOSING IT TO THE
AQUIFERS. HOW DO WE CAPTURE IT?
THAT’S AS INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM.
HOW DO WE WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WORK WITH
FUNDERS AND INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGERS SUCH AS THESE GUYS.
WE WOK ON POLICY. THEY WORK ON THE ACTUAL TOOLS.
AND BUILD NEW INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HELPS US STAY RELEVANT
OVER THE HORIZON, INTO THE 21ST CENTURY.
>>Yunji: I THINK FOR PEOPLE, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THESE
PROBLEMS, THEY JUST SEEM SO ENORMOUS.
WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO?
I POSE THE QUESTION TO ALL OF YOU ON AN INDIVIDUAL LEVEL TO
SUPPORT THAT, FOR INSTANCE, CATCHING THE RAIN WATER, AS IT
FALLS OFF YOUR HOUSE IS ONE WAY TO DO THAT.
WHAT ARE SOME IDEAS THAT YOU HAVE THAT WE COULD, PRACTICAL
WAYS.>>PRACTICAL WAYS ARE FIXING
LEAKS. LEAKY FAUCET.
LEAKYPIPE. MAKING SURE IRRIGATION IS
SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY AND NOT GOING OFF WHEN IT’S
RAINING. SOME SIMPLE THINGS, TAKING
SHORTER SHOWERS. NOT LEAVING THE TAP RUNNING,
FAUCET RUNNING WHEN YOU’RE BRUSHING YOUR TEETH.
SHUTS IT OFF. USING A CUP TO RINSE OUT YOUR
MOUTH. THOSE ARE SOME PRACTICAL
THINGS. IT BEGINS WITH EVERY
INDIVIDUAL PERSON IN OUR COMMUNITY TAKING STEWARDSHIP
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS PRECIOUS RESOURCE.
WHAT JOSH SAID, WE NEED TO LOOK AT WATER IN AN ALL FORMS,
IN A ONE-WATER APPROACH. THAT REQUIRES ALL OF US TO
WORK TOGETHER TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
>>Yunji: WE HAVE A CALLER FROM MAKIKI.
I GUESS THIS WOULD BE FOR YOUR AGENCY.
CALLER PUBLIC PARKS, ALA MOANA, LEFT RUNNING.
IS THERE A WAY FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER TO CHANGE
THE VALVE TO PREVENT WASTE?>>I WOULD SAY THAT’S, PUBLIC
PARKS ARE UNDER THE CITY DEPARTMENT OF PARKS &
RECREATION. THAT’S A PROGRAM AND
OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO LOOK AT HOW THEY CAN MANAGE WATER
USAGE IN THE PARKS. PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST
WATER USERS IN THE CITY & COUNTY OF HONOLULU.
I THINK THEY’RE PUTTING EFFORTS TOWARD FIXES
PLUMBING. ALSO HAVE THE STRUGGLE OF
DEALING WITH VANDALISM. PEOPLE THAT JUST DON’T CARE.
THEY’LL LEAVE THE SHOWER RUNNING EVEN AFTER THEY’RE
DONE. OR WHEN THEY SHOULD SHUT IT
OFF. OR GO OUT AND BREAK THE
PLUMBING AND LET WATER JUST LEAK OUT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD ASK VIEWERS TO REALLY TAKE TO
HEART, IS THAT WE CAN’T BE AT ALL PLACES AT ALL TIMES TO SEE
THESE ISSUES AS THEY ARISE. WE HOPE PEOPLE WILL REPORT
TELL TO US SO WE CAN ADDRESS THEM PROPERLY.
WE HAVE HOT THAT PEOPLE CAN CALL.
768-4381 TO REPORT ANY KIND OF PROBLEMS PEOPLE SEE, STREET,
PARK, FAUCETS THAT MAY NOT CLOSE.
WHATEVER CONCERNS THEY MAY HAVE.
IF THEY CAN REPORT IT TO THAT NUMBER, IT WILL GET DIRECTED
TO THE PROPER AGENCY TO BE CORRECTED.
>>WE HAVE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ISSUES.
PEOPLE WILL CONNECT DOWNSPOUTS TO THEIR SEWER
SYSTEM. AND THE SEWER SYSTEM ISN’T
DESIGNED TO ACCEPT THAT WATER.
THE SEWER SYSTEM IS REALLY WHAT WE CALL A SEPARATE
SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM AND WHEN WE GET A HEAVY RAIN AND
THE ROOF DOWNSPOUTS ARE CONNECTED, THAT CAN CREATE
SUBSTANTIVE PROBLEMS AND CREATE SPILLS BECAUSE THE
SYSTEM ISN’T BIG ENOUGH TO HANDLE THAT FLOW.
SO WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO, MAKE SURE THAT DOWNSPOUTS
ARE DISCONNECTED, YOU HAVE A CLEAN OUT IN THE FRONT OF YOUR
YARD, CAP IS ON THE CLEAN OUT. THAT YOU’RE NOT TAKING A
MANHOLE COVER OFF. SEWER MANHOLE COVER OFF TO
DRAIN THE STREET BECAUSE YOU’RE GOING TO CREATE A
DIFFERENT PROBLEM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND YOU WASTE THAT WATER. YOU DON’T GET IT TREATED IN
THE PROPER MANNER. SO THINGS LIKE THAT TO US ARE
VERY IMPORTANT. IT’S A WAY TO REALLY MAKE SURE
THAT WE’RE CAPTURING THE RIGHT KIND OF WATER AND
TREATING IT AND MAKING SURE THAT THE OTHER WATER MAY BE
AVAILABLE FOR GROUND WATER RECHARGE OR OTHER THINGS
THROUGH CAPTURING IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
I WANT TO SAY, EVERYTHING ADDS UP.
EVERYBODY TAKES THE APPROACH, LITTLE BIT OF PAVING MY
DRIVEWAY, ALL THE WAY, HOOKING MY GUTTER UP TO STORM
WATER, OR WHATEVER IT IS, IT’S JUST A LITTLE BIT, NOT GOING
TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF YOU’RE DOING THAT, THOUSANDS AND
THOUSANDS OF PARCELS AND THOUSANDS OF THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE IN A WATERSHED, PRETTY SOON THAT, WATERSHED STOPS
BEING ABSORBED. NOT LIKE A SPONGE.
HOW NATURE DESIGNED IT TO BE, RAIN, SOAK INTO THE GROUND AND
RECHARGE YOUR AQUIFER AND STREAMS ONLY HAD TO BE A
CERTAIN SIZE TO GET THE WATER OFF IN THEIR CHANNELS TO THE
OCEAN. AS YOU HARDEN AND USE THESE
IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND PAVE OVER ENTIRE YARD, ALL OF THAT
WATER GOT TO GO SOMEWHERE AND IT ADDS UP.
REALLY IS INCUMBENT ON PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT, IT MAY BE JUST
A LITTLE BIT THAT I’M DOING, BUT IF THAT’S MULTIPLIED TIME
AND TIME AGAIN, STREAMS THAT WERE BUILT FOR A CERTAIN SIZE
CAN’T HANDLE THE VOLUME. ESPECIALLY AS WE SEE WITH
CLIMATE CHANGE, WE GET MORE RAIN ON THOSE IMPERVIOUS
SURFACES. IT WILL JUST JUMP OUTSIDE OF
THAT CHANNEL REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT’S CLEANED OUT AND
MAINTAINED OR WHEREVER, JUST MIGHT BE TOO MUCH VOLUME.
IT’S THAT ADDITIVE PIECE, GOT TO MAKE SURE WE’RE EACH DOING
OUR BEST. THOSE KINDS OF THINGS
REALLY MULTIPLY. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT HOW
DEVELOPMENT INCREASES, POPULATION ON OAHU INCREASES,
AND AS WE DEVELOP MORE AND AS WE BUILD MORE HOMES AND EXPAND
MORE, WE HAVE LESS OPPORTUNITY TO ABSORB THAT
RAIN WATER INTO THE GROUND WHERE CAN BE PUT BACK INTO THE
AQUIFER SO WE CAN DRAW UPON IT AND HAVE SOMETHING THAT’S
SUSTAINABLE.>>YOU’RE SAYING, IF YOU CAN,
DON’T NECESSARILY ADD ALL THE PAVEMENT OR DON’T NECESSARILY
DO THE DRIVEWAY IN THAT WAY. ARE THERE WAYS TO THIS IN A
MORE SUSTAINABLE WAY THAT IS STILL CONVENIENT AND YOU HAVE
THE HOUSE YOU WANT?>>EXPERIENCING CLIMATE
CHANGE, DIFFERENT WEATHER PATTERNS, TEMPERATURE, WE
HAVE TO BEHAVE DIFFERENTLY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN SUSTAIN THE
KIND OF ENVIRONMENT WE WANT FOR OUR CHILDREN AND OUR
CHILDREN’S CHILDREN IN THE FUTURE.
>>ADAPTATION.>>WE NEED TO ADAPT TO
CHANGING CONDITIONS. THAT’S THE REALITY WE FACE
TODAY.>>Yunji: ONE OF THE OTHER
REALITIES IS THAT WE DO HAVE AN AGING SYSTEM HERE.
WE HAVE, I BELIEVE, ON AVERAGE, ONE WATER MAIN BREAK
A DAY. YOU WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN ME.
>>YEAH. KNOW THAT VERY WELL.
INTO THIS IS NOT A CHALLENGE UNIQUE TO HONOLULU.
CITY ALL OVER THE COUNTRY IS FACING.
WHAT CAN WE DO AS A SYSTEM TO ADDRESS THAT HOW DO WE MAKE
SURE THAT IS LESSENED AND KEEPING THE COST IN MIND?
>>TWO BALANCING ACTS HERE. ONE SIDE, YOU NEED RELIABLE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND I KNOW THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO HAVE LESS
MAIN BREAKS. ON THE OTHER SIDE, HOW TO KEEP
WATER BILLS AFFORDABLE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS SO THEY CAN
STILL AFFORD TO GET WATER SERVICE.
BALANCING ACT IS ACHIEVED BY DOING THOROUGH PLANNING
EFFORT. DEVELOPING LONGTERM PLANS,
LOOK THE WHAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS ARE TO
IMPROVE RELIABILITY. MAINTAINING SAFETY AND
QUALITY OF THE WATER BALANCING THAT WITH
AFFORDABILITY ISSUE. WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED A
30-YEAR MASTER PLAN IN 2016. OPERATING TO IMPLEMENT THAT
PLAN. IT LOOKED AT THE ENTIRE WATER
SYSTEM, ALL OF OUR ASSETS, AND DEVELOPED A STRATEGY HOW TO
SUSTAIN THESE ASSETS. 2100-MILES OF PIPELINE,
UNFORTUNATELY, ABOUT ONE MAIN BREAK A DAY.
PER YEAR. WE FEEL THAT’S TOO MUCH.
WE’RE WORKING HARD TO ACTUALLY REDUCE THAT.
SOME OF IT IS GOING TO COME DOWN JUST SOME BASIC, BASIC
THINGS. WITH INFRASTRUCTURE,
ESPECIALLY BURIED INFRASTRUCTURE,
UNFORTUNATELY, YOU HAVE TO DIG IT UP, OR DIG UP THE ROAD,
AND LAY NEW INFRASTRUCTURE TO REPLACE THE OLD
INFRASTRUCTURE. THOSE ARE DIFFICULT
CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND SOMETIMES DISRUPTIVE TO THE
COMMUNITY. WE HAVE TO DO THEM.
THE VERY EXPENSIVE. WE HAVE TO DO IT AS
EFFICIENTLY AS WE CAN WHILE KEEPING THINGS AFFORDABLE.
THAT’S A BIG CHALLENGE. UTILITY ACROSS THE COUNTRY
ARE STRIVING TO DO THIS. STRUGGLING WITH THIS.
WE’RE ALL TRYING TO ACHIEVE I THINK NOW, REPLACING AT LEAST
1% OF OUR WATER MAINS A YEAR. FOR US, THAT’S AT LEAST
21-MILES A YEAR. OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS, WE’RE
GOING TO INCREASE OUR PIPELINE REPLACEMENT TO THAT
21-MILES. CITY OF L.A. TRYING TO ACHIEVE
THE SAME THING. OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE THAT TARGET.
INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT FANCY. FOR US, AND ROSS, FACILITIES
MAINTENANCE AND TIM IN SEWERS AND WASTEWATERS, BURIED
INFRASTRUCTURE. OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND.
PEOPLE DON’T THINK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND CHALLENGES OF
THAT INFRASTRUCTURE UNTIL THERE’S A PROBLEM.
THEN THEY WONDER WHY THE PROBLEM OCCURS.
SO THAT’S THE CHALLENGE. DEVELOPING GOOD LONGTERM
PLANS I THINK IS A KEY. YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT A
STRATEGY TO APPROACH THIS. NOT APPROACH IT HAPHAZARDLY.
>>Yunji: THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT COIN ARE THE SEWERS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED WITH ALL THE HIGHRISE
DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE SEE AND WONDERING CAN WE ACTUALLY
HANDLE ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE LIVING ALL OF THOSE PLACES,
ALL TOGETHER.>>JUST TO TAG FOR A SECOND,
WHAT ERNIE WAS SAYING, WE HAVE ANOTHER 2100-MILES OF LINE,
WE HAVE FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS, BEEN GOING THROUGH AND
DOING A LOT OF WORK ON THOSE LINES.
LUCKILY, WE CAN DO OUR WORK A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
WE DON’T NECESSARILY HAVE TO DIG IT UP AND REPLACE IT.
WE CAN LINE IT. SO IT’S LESS DISRUPTIVE IN THE
WAYS DONE. AND WE REDUCED OUR SPILLS
SIGNIFICANTLY SO WE’RE DOWN IN THE AREA OF ABOUT 24, 25
SPILLS A YEAR NOW. BUT YOU KNOW, FROM THERE, IT’S
REALLY EXPENSIVE. WE REALLY JUST NEED TO KEEP ON
THAT PROCESS. WE’VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
CONSENT DECREE OUT THERE. A LOT OF MONEY WILL GO INTO
TREATING WATER BETTER SO ITS BETTER, QUALITY AND REUSABLE.
THINGS LIKE THAT ARE HAPPENING.
WE’RE JUST — WE’VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK.
VERY EXPENSIVE. THAT IS THE RATES AND
EVERYTHING LIKE ERNIE. EVERYTHING WE DO IS PAID FOR
BY OUR RATE PAYORS.>>I WANT TO SAY, I THINK THEY
TALKED ABOUT EXPENSE. EXPENSIVE TO DO.
WE’VE GOT TO TALK ABOUT YOU PAY NOW OR PAY LATER.
>>RIGHT.>>FEDERAL RESERVE BANK, OUT
OF SAN FRANCISCO, JUST TODAY, RELEASED A WHOLE SLEW OF
ANALYSIS AROUND WHAT CLIMATE CHANGE ARE GOING TO BE ON
FISCAL IMPACTS ON CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES.
A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH FLOODING.
WHEN THEY LOOK AT, THEY’RE LOOKING AT BANK IS NOT LENDING
IN CERTAIN AREAS TO FOLKS TRYING TO BUY HOMES IN THESE
NEW FLOOD AREAS BECAUSE WE’RE GETTING MORE FLOODING.
IF WE DON’T INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE TO HANDLE
STORM WATER, DON’T INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE, TO HANDLE THE
WATER, THAT ACTUALLY COMES BACK ON THE CITY IN TERMS OF
PROPERTY VALUES, AND PROPERTY TAXES, AND COMES BACK AN
HOMEOWNERS. I CAN’T GET FINANCING TO BUILD
MY HOME. I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT THAT AS
WE SEE, WE TALK ABOUT WHAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS DOING, BUT
ALSO WHAT AGING INFRASTRUCTURE IS DOING,
INVEST IN GOOD INFRASTRUCTURE, PAY FOR IT UP
FRONT, WE KNOW THAT FOR EVERY DOLLAR YOU PUT IN
INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESILIENCE, YOU SAVE SIX
DOLLARS ON THE BACK END IN TERMS OF PREVENTING DISASTER
AND PREVENTING DAMAGE. SO ITS IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN
MIND. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EXPENSE,
LESS EXPENSIVE THAN THE ALTERNATIVE THAN NEGLECT.
>>FOLLOW BACK ON THE NEW DEVELOPMENT ISSUE.
BEFORE SOMEBODY GETS, BUILD A HIGHRISE OR WHATEVER, ONE OF
THE THINGS THEY ALWAYS DO GET FRUSTRATED WITH IS SOMETIMES
BEING SEWER CAPACITY THERE. WE TRY TO WORK WITH THEM TO
FIND WAYS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. WE DON’T WANT TO BE THE
STUMBLING BLOCK TO SAY AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR OTHER
THINGS, BUT IT IS A TIMING ISSUE SOMETIMES IF IT REALLY
NEEDS ADDITIONAL CAPACITY, IT’S GOING TO TAKE SIX OR
EIGHT YEARS TO BUILD ADDITIONAL LINES.
BUT WE’LL WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER, TRYING TO FIND
WAYS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN SO WE CONTINUE TO SAFELY DEVELOP.
ALSO LOOKING AT WAYS, HOW DO PEOPLE REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF
WATER THAT COMES OUT OF NEW BUILDING.
THINGS LIKE THAT. KIND OF CHANGES WE NEED TO
LOOK FORWARD TO BECAUSE STILL ONLY GOING TO BE SO MUCH
CAPACITY. I WILL SUGGEST THAT OUR
GENERAL FLOW AND PARTLY CERTAINLY A GOOD COMBINATION
WITH ERNIE, IS OUR FLOW 20 YEARS AGO IN OUR SYSTEM WAS
120 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY. THIS LAST YEAR, IT WAS
110 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. DESPITE POPULATION INCREASE,
DESPITE MORE HOUSES. A LOT OF CONSERVATION.
PIPELINING AND SUCH.>>Yunji: WE HAVE NUMBERS TO
ADD TO THE DISCUSSION. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE NOW.
IN A GRAPHIC THAT WE HAVE. COMING UP.
THERE IT IS. JUST ECHO WHAT YOU WERE
SAYING. 110 MILLION-GALLONS PER DAY.
FOR OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM. NINE TREATMENT PLANTS AS YOU
SAID, 2100-MILES OF PIPE. AND THE CONSENT DECREE WHICH
IS 100% COMPLIANT THROUGH 8 YEARS.
THOSE ARE SOME BIG NUMBERS THERE. HOW ARE WE PAYING FOR
ALL OF THAT?>>WHAT WE DO IS PAID FOR BY
SEWER USERS. WE’RE VERY CONSERVATIVE IN
OUR FINANCIAL PROGRAM. WE OBVIOUSLY, SPENDING A LOT
OF MONEY ON THAT SYSTEM. CONSENT DECREE WAS
ORIGINALLY PROJECTED, IN $2,010, 5.2 BILLION, AND
WE’RE OBVIOUSLY WELL ON THE WAY $210.
>>SPENDING THAT, WE ISSUE WASTEWATER REVENUE BONDING
EAS. GOING TO THAT NEXT ANOTHER.
250 MILLION OR SO. NEXT WEEK.
VERY GOOD IN WATCHING THE FINANCES, WHERE WE’VE BEEN
ABLE TO CONTINUE TO REDUCE EVEN THE COST OF BORROWING.
INTEREST RATES GONE DOWN. REFINANCE WHAT YOU WOULD DO
WITH A MORTGAGE. TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF AS MUCH
AS WE CAN, TO KEEP THAT COST DOWN FOR THE OWNER.
FOR THE CUSTOMER. BUT IT IS DEFINITELY
EXPENSIVE BUT IT IS ALL PAID FOR BY OUR CUSTOMER.
WE GET SOME LOANS FROM THE STATE, WHAT WE CALL CLEAN
WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND. INTEREST RATES ARE ABOUT ONE
AND A QUARTER PERCENT. LOOKING FOR ALL OF THE WAYS TO
DO THIS AT LEAST COST, SPREAD THE COST OVER THE LIFE OF THE
SYSTEM SO THAT PEOPLE TODAY, DON’T HAVE TO PAY FOR
EVERYTHING UP FRONT THAT PEOPLE AS THEY USE IT, PAY FOR
IT.>>Yunji: DEFINITELY IS A COST
QUESTION. WE KNEW THESE WERE COMING.
LOVE THE QUESTIONS. KEEP THEM COMING.
WE KNEW THESE WERE COMING. WHY IS THERE SUCH A HUGE
DISPARITY BETWEEN LOW WATER USAGE BILL AND HIGH SEWER
CHARGE? WHY IS YOUR PRODUCT SO MUCH
LESS THAN HIS?>>WELL, WE DON’T HAVE A
CONSENT DECREE. PUTS FORWARD PRETTY
AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE
INFRASTRUCTURE, WASTEWATER SIDE.
ENDEAVOR TO DO, TRY TO KEEP UP WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS
AND NOT GET TOO FAR BEHIND. THEY HAVE A BIGGER CHALLENGE.
TREATMENT PROCESS IS VERY EXPENSIVE.
MEET THE CLEAN WATER. FOR US, IT’S PROVIDING SAFE
DRINKING WATER TO PEOPLE. WE’RE BLESSED WITH A GOOD
GROUND WATER RESOURCES. YOU CAN ALMOST PUMP THE WATER
OUT OF A WELL OR HAVE A TUNNEL DRILLED INTO THE SIDE
OF THE MOUNTAIN. WATER IS ALMOST READY TO
DRINK. EPA REQUIRES US TO CHLORINATE
IT, WE PUT DISINFECTANT INTO THE WATER.
BEYOND THAT, EXCEPT IN CENTRAL OAHU, PROVIDE LITTLE
TREATMENT. WE’RE BLESSED WITH THAT.
THAT BLESSING IS SOMETHING THAT WE CANNOT TAKE FOR
GRANTED. THE GROUND WATER RESOURCES
ARE EASILY CONTAMINATED. BY USES ON THE SURFACE OR
BELOW THE GROUND. SO THERE ARE SOME, YOU ASKED
ME EARLIER WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST THREATS.
CLIMATE CHANGE ON THE LONGTERM.
THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT THREATEN OUR GROUND WATER
RESOURCES ON THE NEAR TERM. THAT HAS A POTENTIAL FOR LARGE
SCALE CONTAMINATION. SO WE ARE AGGRESSIVELY TRYING
TO PROTECT THE RESOURCE. PROTECT THE WAI.
BECAUSE IF NOT, COST OF TREATMENT IS EXPENSIVE.
I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT COST AND AFFORDABILITY FOR OUR
CUSTOMERS. AND THE ISSUES AND CHALLENGES
OF CLIMATE CHANGE. BUT I JUST HAVE THIS FEEL WE
GO MAY BE RATHER THAN LOOKING AT EVERYTHING AS A PROBLEM, WE
LOOK AT IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE PROGRESSIVE, TO LEAD BY
EXAMPLE, FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD.
THINGS WE CAN DO IN OUR ISLAND COMMUNITY THAT MAYBE NO PLACE
ELSE DOES. I THINK THERE ARE GREAT
OPPORTUNITIES HERE. BEING SUSTAINABLE IN OUR
ENERGY RESOURCES IS ONE. BEING THE BEST MANAGERS OF OUR
WATER RESOURCES, TAKING THE ONE WATER APPROACH, BREAKING
DOWN SILOS BETWEEN ORGANIZATIONS AND OPERATING
TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT IS A
GREAT OPPORTUNITY. LOOKING AT INNOVATIVE
TECHNOLOGIES. AND YET, HANDLING THE ISSUES
OF AFFORDABILITY FOR OUR CUSTOMERS BECAUSE AT THE END
OF THE DAY, THE MONEY IS NOT GOING TO COME NECESSARILY
FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE
WITH THE MONEY THERE. SO WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO
EXIST WITH THE REVENUE THAT WE GET FROM THE PEOPLE OF IT
COMMUNITY. AND HOW WE DO THAT I THINK WE
CAN TRY TO SOFTEN THE BLOW OF THE RATE INCREASES BUT RATE
INCREASES ARE NECESSARY ON THE WATER, WASTEWATER, OR
EVEN MAYBE A FUTURE STORM WATER FEE ARE NECESSARY FOR
THE GOOD OF OUR COMMUNITY.>>Yunji: TO THAT POINT ABOUT
BEING INNOVATIVE, TWO QUESTIONS HERE.
LARRY IN MAKIKI, PROBABLY FOR YOU AND FOR YOU, IS THERE A
WAY, HE WANTS TO KNOW, IS THERE A WAY TO CATCH RAINFALL
AT HIGHRISE BUILDINGS AND ANOTHER CALLER WHO WISHES TO
REMAIN ANONYMOUS ASKS. WITH ALL THE INCREDIBLE
RAINFALL LATELY, BLOWS MY MIND WE DON’T HAVE WATER
CATCH. MENT SYSTEMS SET UP ALL OVER
THE ISLAND. WHAT BETTER WAYS CAN WE CATCH
THE RAIN WATER.>>WHEN WE PLAN AND BUILD NEW
FACILITIES, WATER CATCHMENT SYSTEMS, SISTERNS SHOULD BE
INTEGRATED FROM THE DESIGN. WE HAVE REGRAIMENTS IN PLACE
FOR IMPACT DEVELOPMENT. RAINFALL NEEDS TO CONTAINND
WITHIN THE PARCEL. RESIDENTS LIVE IN EXISTING
BUILDINGS CAN DO THEIR PART TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER RAIN
WATER THEY’RE ABLE TO CAPTURE, WHETHER IT BE ON A
LANAI, OR IN THEIR YARD, OR IN HIGHRISE BUILDINGS,
OPPORTUNITIES ON THE ROOFTOPS OF THOSE BUILDINGS OR IN THE
PARKING AREAS OR RECREATION DECKS.
ALL OF THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE DESIGNED AGAIN TO COLLECT AND
SHED STORM WATER, RAIN WATER, CAN BE DIVERTED TO COLLECTION
POINTS WHERE THOSE RESOURCES CAN THEN BE REUSED ON SITE.
TO IRRIGATE AND TO PROVIDE SOURCES OF WATER FOR
NONPOTABLE TYPES OF USES. THAT’S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
WE’RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE. WE HAVE RAIN BARREL WORKSHOPS
THAT ARE OUTREACH TEAM GOES OUT AND PROVIDES TO DIFFERENT
COMMUNITIES. WE ACTUALLY COORDINATE A LOT
OF WORK WITH THE BOARD OF WATER SUPPLY WITH THEIR
COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH TEAM BECAUSE THE RAIN BARREL
ACTUALLY REPRESENTS MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE BOTH OF
US. REPRESENTS KEEPING STORM
WATER ON PROPERTY AND NOT BEING DISCHARGED INTO
NEARSHORE WATER STREAMS, RIVERS AND THE OCEAN.
IT ALSO REPRESENTS ANOTHER SOURCE THAT CAN BE USED TO
REPLACE POTABLE WATER FOR NONPOTABLE SOURCES.
THERE’S A THIRD PIECE OF THIS THAT WE’RE NOW BEGINNING TO
INTEGRATE INTO OUR OUTREACH AND THAT IS DURING TIMES OF
EMERGENCY, WHEN WATER SYSTEMS MAY BE IMPAIRED OR
COMPROMISED BECAUSE OF THE STORM, THOSE RAIN CATCHMENT
SYSTEMS CAN BE USED TO FLUSH TOILETS OR PROVIDE OTHER NONE
POTABLE SOURCES UNTIL BOARD OF WATER SUPPLY CAN RESTORE
SERVICE TO EVERYONE. MANY OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE
AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE. WE HAVE RAIN BARREL
WORKSHOPS. BOARD OF WATER DOES TOO.
WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE
OPPORTUNITIES OR EVEN GO ON LINE TO SEE HOW THEY CAN
CONSTRUCT THE RAIN BARREL AND GO TO THE HARDWARE STORE AND
PICK UP MATERIALS THAT ARE READILY AVAILABLE.
>>Yunji: ARE WE DOING ENOUGH ON THE INDIVIDUAL AND ALSO ON
THE SORT OF SYSTEM WIDE LEVEL TO CATCH THIS RAIN WATER?
>>I THINK AROUND THE TABLE, ACKNOWLEDGMENT AROUND THE
TABLE, WE’RE NOT DOING ENOUGH.
NOBODY ELSE IS EITHER. OUR CHALLENGE TO FIGURE OUT
HOW TO INNOVATE AND DO THESE PILOTS.
TO MOVE THE NEEDLE FORWARD. AND TRY TO — IN IDEAL WORLD,
WE CAPTURE EVERY DROP. IT’S THAT PRECIOUS.
ORIGINAL, CONSTANTLY REMINDED HOW IMPORTANT WATER
IS. BECAUSE THE WORD FOR WATER IS
WAI. THE WORD FOR WELL IN HAWAIIAN
IS WAIWAI. YOU WHO HAD A LOT OF WATER HAD
WELLS. I DON’T THINK THAT CHANGES IN
A MODERN SOCIETY WHERE WATER IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
RESOURCE. IF WE CAN CAPTURE MORE DROPS,
WE BECOME MORE WEALTHY AS A COMMUNITY YOU TALK ABOUT
CATCHMENT, A COUPLE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF THAT.
ONE IS, YOU ASK WHY IS OUR WATER CHEAPER THAN
WASTEWATER, WE HAVE SOME HELP AND THOUSAND OF TREES UP IN
THE WATERSHED THAT CAPTURE THE RAIN, CAPTURE THE FOG
DRIFT, AND THEY’VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB OF PURIFYING,
CAPTURING AND PURIFYING OUR WATER AT NO COST TO US.
PAYMENT FROM NATURE WE DON’T–WE TAKE FOR GRANTED,
WE SHOULDN’T, IS HUGE. I THINK THE OTHER THING IS WE
HAD A LONG HISTORY THROUGHOUTED ISLANDS OF
CAPTURING WATER FOR RESERVOIRS FOR THE
AGRICULTURE THAT HAD DEVELOPED.
GONE BY THE WAYSIDE. AFTER THE KOLOKO CATASTROPHE
ON KAUAI, SORT OF A RUSH TO DISMANTLE SOME OF THESE
RESERVOIRS. AS WE LOOK AT FUTURE WHERE WE
NEED TO CAPTURE EVERY DROP, AS WE GET BIG RAINFALL, WE WANT
TO HOLD THAT WATER UP IN THE UPPER AREAS, LET IT PERCOLATE
BACK IN AND KEEP IT FROM FLOODING DONE LOW, WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE WE ARE PRESERVING AND PROTECTING RESERVOIR
AREAS OR BUILDING NEW CATCHMENT AREAS AND FLOOD
CONTROL PROJECTS THAT WILL HELP WITH THAT BECAUSE
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CATCH IT NOT ONLY AT THE HOUSE LEVEL
WITH RAIN BARRELS BUT AT SCALE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE.
>>ON THAT SAME TRACK, THE MORE GETS CAPTURED WHETHER
IT’S RESERVOIRS OR CATCHMENT SYSTEMS OR IN YARDS AND SUCH,
STUFF THAT DOESN’T END UP INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM, WHICH
AGAIN, POSITIVE FOR US. IT MEANS WE DON’T HAVE TO GROW
THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. WE CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE THE
EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE RIGHT MATERIALS AND THE
RIGHT STUFF. CAPTURING THAT IS POSITIVE
ALL THE WAY AROUND THE CYCLE.>>Yunji: WE HAVE A
PHOTOGRAPH, WE WANT TO SHOW YOU.
I WOULD LOVE YOU TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS A BASIN, RIGHT BY THE NEW BUS TERMINAL.
I BELIEVE THAT’S ON SOUTH KING STREET RIGHT THERE.
OR RIGHT THERE. BASIN LIKE THAT, WHEN YOU LOOK
AT IT, TO ME, DOESN’T LOOK LIKE IT HOLDS THAT MUCH.
THAT CAN BE VERY SIGNIFICANT.>>DRAINAGE SWALE.
ONE DESIGNED TO ABSORB STORM WATER.
SO WATER THAT’S COMING OFF A PARKING LOT, GENERALLY WOULD
MAYBE CARRYING OILS AN POLLUTANTS WOULD HARM
ENVIRONMENT IF RELEASED INTO A STREAM OR OCEAN.
GOES TO THE GRASS OR PLANTINGS.
WATER IS ABSORBED INTO THE GROUND WHERE IT THEN GOES TO
REPLENISH THE AQUIFER. ENCOURAGING EVERYONE TO DO.
THIS IS PART OF THE JOINT TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER
CITY CONSTRUCTING SOUTH KING STREET.
>>Yunji: AS YOU REPLACE THE 2100-MILES.
THAT NUMBER SEEMS ENORMOUS TO ME.
AS DO YOU THAT PERCENTAGE EVERY YEAR, IS THE BOARD OF
WATER SUPPLY REPLACING OLD CAST IRON PIPES WITH BETTER
TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL LAST LONGER AND SORT OF
PIGGYBACKING ON THAT WE HEAR ABOUT SYSTEMS ON MAINLAND
THAT HAVE A LOT OF LEAD, FLINT COMES TO MIND.
VERY EXTREME EXAMPLE. THAT WAS EXACERBATED BY SOME
DECISIONS USED RIVER WATER AND WHATNOT.
THEY’RE NOT THE ONLY MUNICIPALITY FACING LEAD IN
THE WATER. I THINK PHILADELPHIA IS
ANOTHER. IS THAT A RISK FOR US HERE?
>>BASED ON OUR TESTS, LEAD ISSUES ARE NOT A RISK.
WE JUST RECENTLY LEARNED THAT THE EPA IS THINKING ABOUT SOME
NEW REGULATIONS THAT WILL REQUIRE TESTING BY THE
UTILITY FOR LEAD INSIDE THE CUSTOMER’S PROPERTY.
SCHOOLS, OR NURSERIES OR CARE HOMES.
SO THAT’S SOMETHING WE’RE LOOKING AT TO SEE WHAT THOSE
REGULATIONS ARE GOING TO REQUIRE.
FORTUNATELY RIGHT NOW, LEAD IS NOT AN ISSUE FOR US WE’RE
GROUND WATER BASED. LIKE YOU SAY, FLINT, CHANGED
THEIR SOURCE OF WATER. FROM A SURFACE WATER SOURCE,
I THINK IT WAS ORIGINALLY FROM THE CITY OF DETROIT, LAKE
HURON. CHANGE TO THE FLINT RIVER.
DONE BASICALLY BY PEOPLE THAT MADE DECISIONS ON PURE
ECONOMICS. UNFORTUNATELY, THROUGH
PROBLEMS WITH THE OPERATIONS STAFF, TURNOVER IN THE
OPERATIONS STAFF, PEOPLE REQUIRING, SOME OF THE
KNOWLEDGED ONES THERE TO ADJUST THE CAPABILITY OF THE
PLANT TO HANDLE THE DIFFERENT QUALITY WATER.
SOURCE WATER.>>Yunji: THIS IS A QUESTION I
ACTUALLY HAVE FOR YOU. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THE
POPULATION WILL REACH A POINT WHERE WE EXHAUST OUR FRESH
WATER SUPPLY? WHAT WILL WE DO THEN AND THE
ANOTHER CALLER WANTS O KNOW, DOES TECHNOLOGY EXIST TO TURN
SALT WATER TO FRESH CLEAN WATER TO HELP PRESERVE OUR
DRINKING WATER? COULD WE GET TO A POINT WHERE
WE ACTUALLY RUN OUT OF WATER? AND IF THAT IT HAPPEN, IS SALT
WATER A WAY FOR US TO GO?>>WELL, DEFER TO ERNIE ON THE
SALT WATER. IT’S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT AS
AN ISLAND COMMUNITY, BY DEFINITION, ALWAYS EXISTED
WITHIN OUR MEANS. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HARKEN
BACK TO LESSONS OF THE THE PAST, YOU HAVE THIS MUCH.
FIGURE OUT HOW TO ALLOCATE IT, PROTECT AND MAKE SURE IT’S
GOING TO BE AROUND FOR YOUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS.
SOME OF THE ADVANCES WE MADE IN WATER CONSERVATION, GOING
FROM 120 MILLION GALLONS A DAY DOWN TO
110 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, IS TESTIMONY THAT CONSERVATION
AND STEWARDSHIP AND RESPONSIBLE MANAGEMENT OF A A
RESOURCE. LOOK AT THAT NUMBER,
INCREASING POPULATION, GIVES US HOPE THAT SURE, WE CAN MORE
PEOPLE CAN COME IN. WE’VE GOT SOME OF THE MOST, SO
MESSED. I JUST CAN’T UNDERLINE HOW
MUCH, HOW BLESSED WE ARE AS AN ISLAND AND WAY THAT OUR ROCK
HAS FORMED AND THE WAY THAT THE RAINS FALL AND WE’RE ABLE
TO CAPTURE THAT WITH THE TRADES, THAT WE HAVE
ABUNDANCE OF WATER. HISTORICALLY.
THAT WON’T BE THE CASE IN THE FUTURE IF WE DON’T MANAGE IT.
COMPETENTLY AND RESPONSIBLY. IS TO FAR WE HAVE.
THINK THAT I GIVES US POSITIVE, AS LONG AS WE ALL
STEP FORWARD AND DO THE RIGHT THING, AS LONG AS WE ALL
INVEST AND AS LONG AS WE GIVE A LITTLE BIT OURSELVES FOR
BENEFIT OF THE WHOLE, FUTURE IS BRIGHT AROUND WATER.
>>SAME THING. WE JUST, POINT WE WORK WITH
ERNIE WHEN HE’S LOOKING AT HIS POTABLE WATER SUPPLY AND
SUCH, YOU HAVE TO TAKE AND MAKE USE OF MORE OF WASTEWATER
SUPPLY INTO REUSABLE WATER SO THAT YOU CAN — THAT BECOMES
USABLE ON LAND AND SUCH SO THAT WE DON’T JUST PUT IT INTO
THE OCEAN. WE JUST, IT HAS THE VALUE, BUT
AT SOME POINT, PROBABLY HAS MUCH MORE VALUE AS A DIRECT
OFFSET TO THE POTABLE WATER SOURCE.
>>Yunji: HOW MUCH ARE WE DOING THAT NOW, REUSING SO-CALLED
GRAY WATER?>>GRAY WATER, REALLY AN
INDIVIDUAL KIND OF LOCATION. I DON’T KNOW THERE’S A LOT OF
NUMBERS TO THAT. BETWEEN US, GIVE ABOUT
13 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY TO ERNIE, AND HIS TEAM TO PRODUCE
RECYCLED WATER, OUT OF HONOULIULI TREATMENT PLANT,
WE DO A SMALL AMOUNT IN LAIE. BUT THERE’S FUTURE
OPPORTUNITIES THERE THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT.
WHEN THAT TIMING IS RIGHT, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE READY TO
GO TO THOSE TO MAKE SURE WE’RE PROTECTING THE POTABLE
DRINKING WATER REQUIREMENT.>>KIND OF BUILDING OFF OF
WHAT JOSH WAS SAYING ABOUT THE POPULATION.
WILL WE RUN OUT OF WATER. RIGHT NOW, WE’RE VERY
FORTUNATE WITHOUT LARGE SCALE AGRICULTURE IN THE ISLANDS,
WHAT WE CALL SUSTAINABLE YIELD FOR THE ISLAND OF OAHU,
IS ABOUT 407 MILLION GALLONS A DAY THAT CAN BE USED.
WE’RE MAYBE ABOUT HALFWAY THERE.
RIGHT NOW, MUNICIPAL USE OR USE BY THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN
OUR COMMUNITY, IS THE BIGGEST USER ALONG WITH THE MILITARY.
AND SOME PRIVATE SYSTEMS. WE’VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE
FROM THE 90s TO ABOUT 2010, THAT EVEN THOUGH THE
POPULATION WAS INCREASING LIKE THIS, THE PER PERSON USE,
BECAUSE OF CHANGES IN PLUMBING CODES, WATER
CONSERVATION, MADE CHANGES SO THAT THE PER PERSON USE WENT
DOWN AND SAVED. SO WATER USE DIDN’T GO UP.
STAYED FLAT OVER THAT TIME FRAME.
EVEN THOUGH THE POPULATION WAS CLIMBING.
THAT’S NOT UNUSUAL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, OTHER LOCATIONS HAVE
EXPERIENCED SAME TREND. WE SEE NOW THAT AS WE GET, HAVE
BECOME MORE EFFICIENT, WITH POPULATION INCREASES, OVER
THE NEXT 30 YEARS, WE’RE GOING TO DEVELOP FEW MORE WELLS TO
PROVIDE THE NEEDS. WE HAVE ENOUGH FOR THE NEXT 30
TO 40 YEARS. WE’RE LOOKING ALSO AT SEA
WATER– DESALINATION. WHY ARE WE LOOKING AT
DESALINATING SEA WATER AND MAKING IT FRESH FOR PEOPLE TO
USE? THE REASON IS RIGHT NOW, WE
NEED TO GAIN EXPERIENCE ON HOW TO DO THAT.
WHAT IT TAKES TO DO THAT BEFORE WE GET IN A CRISIS
SITUATION. MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE CLIMATE
CHANGE, WE GET INTO A TEN YEAR PERIOD OF DROUGHT.
OUR WATER RESOURCES ARE DIMINISHING AND WE NEED TO
LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF WATER.
IT WILL BE TOO LATE THEN TO LOOK AT SEA WATER
DESALINATION FROM SCRATCH. WE’RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING,
PILOT PROJECT, TO DEVELOP A SMALL SEA WATER DESAL PLANT.
SCALABLE FOR THE FUTURE, SHOULD WE NEED IT.
I THINK THERE IS, MAYBE THE CONCEPT IS, YOU HAVE SO MUCH
PAYCOMING IN, EVERY MONTH TO YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT.
AND YOU LEARN TO LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS.
SO LIKEWISE, THE CHECKING ACCOUNT FOR HOW MUCH WATER
RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY, EVEN THOUGH
PEOPLE, POPULATIONS INCREASING, WE NEED TO LEARN
HOW TO ADJUST. IN OUR MASTER PLAN, WE SET
SOME TARGETS. MORE AGGRESSIVE WATER
CONSERVATION EFFORTS. REBATE PROGRAMS.
CHANGES IN THE CODE. ON SITE REUSE AND BUILDINGS ON
THE PROPERTIES. TRY TO REDUCE THE PER PERSON
USAGE EVEN MORE. RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE’RE ABOUT
154, 155-GALLONS A DAY PER PERSON.
WE KNOW WE CAN GO LOWER.>>Yunji: WE FEEL A
RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE WE LIVE HERE.
CALLER BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT. WANTS TO KNOW, ABOUT
MONITORING HOTEL USE AND WHAT IS BEING DONE TO THAT END.
IF YOU’RE A TOURIST, COME HERE, YOU WANT TO TAKE A LONG
LUXURIOUS BATH. MAYBE SWIM IN THE POOL.
I SEE YOU NODDING THERE. HOW DO WE INGRAIN THAT KIND OF
AWARENESS NOT ONLY PEOPLE LIVE HERE BUT WELCOME TO VISIT
OF THE.>>HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY
STARTED. ALLOWING GUESTS TO MAKE
MEASURES, ASK THAT TOWELS REMAIN IN PLACE AND NOT BE
IMMEDIATELY REMOVED AND LAUNDERED.
THERE ARE MEASURES IN PLACE. BUT IT DOES REQUIRE SOME
EFFORT ON THE PART OF THE GUESTS TO ACTUALLY ASK FOR
THAT SERVICE. OR SAY SOMETHING.
SO THAT THE NORMAL PROTOCOL OF REMOVING TOWELS ON A DAILY
BASIS AND SENDING THEM OUT TO GET LAUNDERED ARE NOT
REPEATED.>>WE ALSO HAVE A BUSINESS
WATER TRANSMISSION PROGRAM. STAFF OUTREACH TO THESE
BUSINESSES, HOTELS AND OTHERS, I THINK THE HAWAIʻI
PRINCE HOTEL, GOOD EXAMPLE. TRYING TO OPERATE VERY
SUSTAINABLY. BOTTOM LINE, A LOT OF THESE
BUSINESSES REALIZE THEY NEED TO OPERATE IN A SUSTAINABLY
RESPONSIBLE MANNER. WATER RESOURCES ARE A
VALUABLE PART OF THAT FACTOR OF BEING SUSTAINABLE.
USING ONLY WHAT THEY NEED, BECAUSE IT ALSO COSTS THEM
MONEY. NOT ONLY THE WATER SIDE, THE
WATER IS CHEAPEST SIDE OF THE BILL.
EVEN THOUGH IT’S, WATER SUPPLY AND SEWER CHARGE, QUIT
A BIT MORE. BUT SO IF THEY WANT TO SAVE ON
THEIR BOTTOM LINE, IT’S IN THEIR INTEREST TO BE
EFFICIENT.>>THAT’S CORRECT.
I THINK THE IMPORTANT POINT. CHANGING BEHAVIOR IS HARD.
CHANGING INFRASTRUCTURE CAN BE EASIER IN SOME WAYS THAN
GAINING A WHOLE LOT MORE SCALE.
SO ERNIE TALKS ABOUT MAKING SURE WE’RE ADOPTING THE MOST
UP TO DATE CODES. MAKING SURE THAT THERE’S
WATER CONSERVATION MEASURES IN THOSE CODES AND ADOPTING
GREEN BUILDING CODE. CODES BUILD THE BUILDINGS WE
LIVE IN, INDIVIDUAL OR TOURIST THAT COMES TO VISIT OR
WHATEVER, WHEN YOU TURN ON THE TAP, LOW FLOW TAP, YOU’RE
AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO USE LESS WATER EVEN IF YOU DON’T
TURN IT OFF WHEN YOU’RE BRUSHING YOUR TEETH.
IT’S BUILT INTO THE SYSTEM. IT’S SO CRITICAL THAT WE MAKE
SURE OUR CODES ARE AS SUSTAINABLE AS THEY CAN
POSSIBLY BE WHETHER THEY’RE ENERGY CODES, BUILDING CODES,
PLUMBING CODES, TO MAKE SURE AS A MATTER OF COURSE, OUR
BUILDINGS ARE USING LESS RESOURCES.
>>Yunji: HOW DO WE MEASURE UP ON THAT SCALE?
HOW ARE WE DOING COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES WHEN IT COMES TO
OUR CODE?>>WE’RE CATCHING UP.
LITTLE BIT BEHIND. WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES OF SOME
OF CHALLENGES WE ENCOUNTER I THINK, WHEN WE WANT TO CHANGE
CODES TO BE MORE GREENER CODE, PUSH BACK FROM THE BUILDING
INDUSTRY. CONCERNED ABOUT INCREASING
COSTS OF HOUSING, AND OTHER THINGS.
I MEAN, THEY’RE RIGHT. IT DOES COST MORE UP FRONT TO
COMPLY WITH GREENER CODE OR MORE SUSTAINABLE CODE.
BUT I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIFE CYCLE OF THAT FACILITY,
IT’S BENEFITS TO THE ENVIRONMENT, AND TO THE
PEOPLE THAT WILL LIVE THERE EVENTUALLY, IT’S A POSITIVE.
>>REALLY WHAT IS ABOUT. IT’S ABOUT WHAT IS THE
LONGTERM COST TO LIVE IN A BUILDING AND NOT NECESSARILY
WHAT THE UP-FRONT COST TO BUILD IT.
WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT ARE
THE SORT OF INTEREST OF SOMEBODY BUILDING A BUILDING
AND SELLING OR LEASING IT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEPT COST
AS LOW AS POSSIBLE. IT MIGHT BE APPLIANCES USE
MORE ENERGY OR WATER BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE COST IS GOING TO
BE BORNE BY THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE.
WE WANT TO MARRY THE TWO UP SO WE KNOW THE VALUE OF LITTLE
BIT OF INCREASE ON THE BUILDING CODE SIDE, PAID OFF
MANY, MANY TIMES OVER FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS LIVING OF
THERE AND PAYING OUT OF POCKET, MONTH OVER MONTH OVER
MONTH. UTILITY BILL.
>>VERY MUCH, ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WE SUPPORT THAT. CONCEPT.
WE NEED TO BEGIN TO CHANGE, MOVE TO CHANGE THE BUILDING
CODES TO ALLOW ON-SITE REUSE DO THINGS LIKE THAT THAT
AFFECT POSITIVELY IN THE SENSE THAT THE SEWER BILL
DOESN’T GO UP AS MUCH, WATER ISN’T THE SAME ISSUE, HERE WE
ARE, MAKING USE OF THAT WHICH IS RIGHT THERE, GRAY WATER
PORTION VERSUS THE BROWN WATER PORTION, AND IF YOU
REALLY, YOU WANT TO MAKE MINIMIZE THE DIRTY WATER
PORTION IN THAT SENSE. SO THAT REALLY, YOU CAN DO IT
ON SITE, MAKE THAT REALLY GOOD USE.
THAT’S THE — REAL CHANGE THAT WE’VE GOT TO MAKE IN THE
CODE IN ORDER TO DO THAT. YOU’VE GOT TO DO THAT WHEN YOU
BUILD THE BUILDING. YOU’VE GOT TO —
>>Yunji: MASTER.>>RETROFITTING HIGHRISE IS
VERY DIFFICULT. BUT IF I BUILD THE PLUMBING IT
TO BEGIN WITH, THEN THAT CAN WORK VERY WELL.
>>Yunji: GOT A FEW QUESTIONS. YOU TALKED ABOUT
CONTAMINATION A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
THERE ARE TWO QUESTIONS HERE ABOUT RED HILL.
I KNOW THAT CAN BE A SHOW IN AND OF ITSELF.
LET’S JUST GET TO THESE TWO. THE CALLER HAS BEEN
MONITORING MILITARY TANKS AT RED HILL FOR YEARS.
WHAT’S IS TAKING SO LONG FOR THE STATE TO DO SOMETHING
BEFORE THE LEAKS IMPACT OUR WATER AQUIFER?
AND THE OTHER CALLER WANTING TO KNOW, CAN YOU SHARE UPDATE
ON THE STATUS OF RED HILL WATER PROBLEM WITH THE NAVY?
I KNOW IT’S A LONG ONE.>>TRY TO BE CONCISE.
>>Yunji: I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT DOES GIVE A LOT
OF FOLKS PAUSE.>>WHAT’S HAPPENING WITH RED
HILL RIGHT NOW IS JUST FOR EVERYBODY’S SAKE, THERE IS 18
TANKS BEING USED, BUILT, SECOND WORLD WAR,
UNDERGROUND. EACH TANK CAN HOLD
12.5 MILLION-GALLONS. ALMOST 200 MILLION GALLONS
OF DIESEL AND JET FUEL STORED THERE.
DIRECTLY OVER THE DRINKING WATER AQUIFER IN THAT AREA.
FUEL IS HELD IN PLACE BY THE QUARTER INCH STEEL PLATE THAT
WAS INSTALLED BETWEEN 1940 AND ’43.
DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE OF CORROSION ON THAT STEEL
PLATE. AND LEAKAGE.
SO RESPONSIBLE PARTIES THAT I’M HOPEFUL WILL MAKE THE
RIGHT DECISIONS STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND
USCTA. THEY’RE THE REGULATORS.
AGREEMENT CALLED ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER AND
CONSENT. VOLUNTARY A AGREEMENT THAT
DOH, EPA, DEFENSE LOGISTICS AGENCY AND U.S. NAVY ENTERED
INTO. UNFORTUNATELY, INDICATIONS
ARE, BASED ON THE SUBMITTAL OF A TANK UPGRADE ALTERNATIVE
OPTION THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE NAVY, WAS TO MORE OF
STATUS QUO, JUST DO THE PATCHING, INSPECTING AND
PATCHING THAT QUARTER INCH STEEL PLATE.
INSTALLED IN THE 40’S. WE’RE NOT SURE, WE’RE
DEFINITELY SURE THAT THAT NOT GOING TO PREVENT ANY MORE
LEAKS IN THE FUTURE. OUR HOPE IS THE DOHAEPA WILL
LISTEN TO CONCERNS TO REPLACE, AND REQUIRE MUCH
MORE STRINGENT SOLUTION. WHAT WE RECOMMEND IS DOUBLE
WALL TANKS THERE. THE LOSE SOME CAPACITY, BUT
DOUBLED WALL TANKS, TWO WALLS, INNER WALL WILL HOLD
THE FUEL. IF THERE’S A LEAK, SECOND WALL
WILL CONTAIN IT. SO IT DOESN’T GET OUT AND INTO
THE AQUIFER. WE HOPE THAT THAT OPTION WILL
BE SELECTED. IF NOT, THEY CAN LOOK AT, THEY
SHOULD LOOK AT RELOCATION OF THE TANKS.
>>Yunji: KEEPING IN MIND, OBVIOUSLY WE DON’T HAVE THE
NAVY HERE TO RESPOND TONIGHT. WE DO WANT TO — I WANT TO BE
SURE TO BE FAIR WITH THEM. WE HAD A FUEL TANK ADVISORY
COMMITTEE MEETING THIS MORNING.
WENT FOR ABOUT 3 HOURS. IT WAS A GREAT DISCUSSION.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT PUBLIC
DISCUSSION. ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE
COMMENTS. EPA AND U.H. HAVE INFORMED US
THAT IN NOVEMBER, SOMETIMES AROUND THE MIDDLE OR JUST
BEFORE THANKSGIVING, WE’RE GOING TO HOLD A PUBLIC MEETING
AND SOLICIT COMMENTS FOR PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND PROVIDE
INPUT ON THE TANK UPGRADE ALTERNATIVE REPORT THAT THE
NAVY RECENTLY SUBMITTED. IT’S ALL AVAILABLE ON THE
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH WEBSITE OR THE USEP A&E PA.GO V/RED
HILL. THEY CAN GET A COPY AND
PROVIDE COMMENTS WHEN THE MEDIA NOTICED.
>>Yunji: I’M SURE THAT WILL BE VERY WELL ATTENDED.
>>THAT’S KIND OF LIKE MY IMMEDIATE THREAT TO THE
RESOURCES. IN A HUGE FASHION.
>>Yunji: ABSOLUTELY. I’M SURE THAT GIVES YOUR
OFFICE PAUSE AS WELL.>>I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT
THREATS, A DAY WITHOUT WATER, THAT’S PART OF THE REASON
WE’RE ALL AROUND THE TABLE. IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE
THE THINGS THAT COULD CAUSE A DAY WITHOUT WATER, LONGTERM,
WE THINK CLIMATE CHANGE. NEAR TERM, SOME SORT OF
POLLUTION OR ACT OF TERRORISM, ONE OF THOSE
THINGS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY TURN OFF YOUR TAP.
AND I THINK IF YOU CAN IMAGINE A DAY WHERE FIREFIGHTERS
CAN’T GET ACCESS TO WATER, HOSPITALS DON’T HAVE WATER TO
CLEAN YOUR WOUNDS, CAN’T FLUSH YOUR TOILET, YOU
REALIZE HOW CENTRAL WATER IS. I THINK THAT’S SOMETHING,
AGAIN, VALUE THAT CENTURIES AGO, REALIZED BY FOLKS WHO ON
AN ISLAND, SURROUNDED BY SALT WATER, FRESH WATER REALLY IS
YOUR, YOU NEED AIR. YOU NEED WATER.
AND YOU NEED FOOD. THAT’S ALL YOU REALLY
ACTUALLY NEED. SO MAKING SURE WE TAKE CARE OF
IN THE FACE OF CLIMATE CHANGE, AND OTHER THREATS, THAT
NUMBER 2 ON WATER IS REALLY, SORT OF HIGHEST PURPOSE WE CAN
HAVE AS PUBLIC STEWARDS. TRY TO PROTECT THOSE CRITICAL
RESOURCES FOR HUMAN SURVIVAL.>>Yunji: WE WANT TO GET TO
THOSE WE QUESTIONS. THEY’RE POURING IT.
CONTINUE TO SUBMIT THEM. YEARS AGO, GREAT SYSTEM SET UP
WITH SOME OF THE NEWER DEVELOPMENTS IN EWA.
HAS THIS SYSTEM BEEN IMPLEMENTED IN ANY OTHER
PARTS OF ISLAND? I DON’T THINK I’M FAMILIAR
WITH THE SYSTEM.>>I’M NOT SURE IF THE CALLER
IS REFERRING TO THE IDEA, I DID KIND OF, DEVELOPPERS OR
BUILDING INDUSTRY TRYING TO AVOID ADDITIONAL COST TO SELL
THEIR PRODUCT TO THE PUBLIC. THE DEVELOPERS, AGREED ON THE
REQUIREMENTS TO INSTALL DUAL PIPING SYSTEMS IN THE
ROADWAYS. ONE FOR POTABLE USAGE.
HIGH QUALITY DRINKING WATER. SECOND PIPELINE IN THE SAME
ROAD FOR RECYCLED WASTEWATER OR NONPOTABLE WATER.
THAT’S ALL — PURPLE PIPES. PURPLE PVC PIPES.
CAN’T DRINK THAT ONE. PERFECTLY FINE FOR IRRIGATION
OF LANDSCAPING, PARKS, GOLF COURSES, AND ALSO, FOR
INDUSTRIAL USE. SO TIM MENTIONED OUR RECYCLED
WATER FACILITY. TAKING WASTEWATER, TREATING
IT, AND REUSING IT. ABOUT 10 MILLION-GALLONS A
DAY. WE WANT TO EXPAND THAT USE
ONLY POSSIBLE IN THE EWA PLAIN BECAUSE REQUIREMENT AND
POLICY REQUIREMENT THAT THEY INSTALLED DUAL SYSTEMS.
VERY EXPENSIVE TO THE DEVELOPER.
BUT TO THEIR CREDIT, AGREED TO IT.
WE NEED SOME OF THAT ACTION I THINK IN SETTING POLICY.
MAYBE IN THE SHORT TERM, FEELS LIKE MEDICINE YOU DON’T WANT
TO SWALLOW, BITTER MEDICINE, BUT ON THE LONGTERM, TO THE
BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY.>>Yunji: WELL, WE HAVE JUST
FOUR MINUTES LEFT. I KNOW GOES VERY FAST.
I KNOW WE ARE ALL HERE FOR THE TO TALK ABOUT AND RAISE
AWARENESS ABOUT THIS IMAGINING A DAY WITHOUT
WATER. WHICH COMING UP ON THE 23RD.
I WANT TO KIND OF CYCLE BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED.
WHAT JUST ONE THING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE EACH VIEWER TO DO?
WHAT IS ONE THING WE CAN DO TO HELP TO PRESERVE THE SYSTEM
AND MAINTAIN IT?>>I WOULD JUST ASK EVERYBODY
TO DO THEIR PART. THIS WATER IS PRECIOUS.
IT’S A GIFT. YOU DON’T GO AND THROW THE
GIFT AWAY AND WASTE IT. TREAT IT AS A GIFT.
BE CAREFUL HOW YOU USE IT.>>WATER IS IRREPLACEABLE
RESOURCE. SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE FOR
GRANTED TOO OFTEN. AND EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US
CAN DO SOMETHING TO HELP ENSURE THAT WE PROLONG THE
QUALITY AND THE SUPPLY OF WATER THAT WE HAVE.
WHETHER IT’S PICKING UP LITTER, WHETHER IT’S SWEEPING
THE GUTTER IN FRONT OF YOUR HOME OR SETTING UP A RAIN
BARREL TO CATCH SOME RAIN WATER AND REUSE IT ON YOUR
PROPERTY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ADD UP.
IN THE SAME WAY THAT A PIECE OF LITTER UP IN WILHELMINA
RISE, IF LEFT TO GO INTO THE STORM DRAIN SYSTEM, ENDS UP IN
THE ALA WAI HARBOR, AS A PART OF A GREATER HUGE AREA OF
LITTER, WE CAN EACH DO SOMETHING TO PREVENT THAT BAD
STUFF FROM HAPPENING.>>TAG ON THAT.
WITH WE HAVE CALLED WASTEWATER, IT’S REALLY USED
WATER, CAN BE REUSED, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE
PAYING ATTENTION TO THE IDEAS OF WATCH WHAT YOU PUT DOWN,
YOUR DRAIN. DON’T PUT GREASE DOWN YOUR
DRAIN. THAT CAN GO INTO YOUR TRASH.
GREASE INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM, WILL HARDEN, CONSTRICT THE
PIPE, COST COSTS. THINGS THAT ARE ADVERTISED AS
FLUSHABLE WIPES. MOST OF THEM ARE NOT BECAUSE
THEY DON’T DISINTEGRATE. TOILET PAPER DISINTEGRATES.
DESIGNED TO DO THAT. DON’T USE THOSE, AT LEAST
DON’T FLUSH THEM, MAKE USE OF THE SYSTEM FOR THE PROPER
REASONS, THAT MAKES IT MUCH EASIER FOR US TO MAKE SURE
THAT WATER COMES THROUGH THE SYSTEM IS AVAILABLE TO
PROPERLY TREAT AND MAKE PERHAPS MAKE AVAILABLE FOR
REUSE OR OTHER SUCH PURPOSES.>>Yunji: WE’LL GIVE YOU THE
LAST WORD.>>I’LL SEND US SOFTBALL TO
ERNIE. DRINK WATER OUT OF YOUR TAP.
WE HAVE THE BEST WATER QUALITY IN THE NATION.
WATER QUALITY COMING OUT OF YOUR TAP IS IN MOST CASES
BETTER THAN BOTTLED WATER BECAUSE OF THE PLASTICS THAT
GET SUCKED INTO IT. HOT WAREHOUSES AND STORES
OFTENTIMES. HEALTHIEST AND CHEAPEST YOU
CAN DO FOR YOURSELF, DRINK WATER IN A WATER BOTTLE,
REUSABLE WATER BOTTLE OUT OF THE TAP.
NOT ONLY KEEPS YOU HEALTHY, KEEPS THE SYSTEM HEALTHY
BECAUSE YOU’RE RUNNING THE SYSTEM AND PAYING BACK INTO
THE SYSTEM. AN WE DIDN’T EVEN TALK ABOUT
HURRICANES AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO COME WITH
CLIMATE CHANGE MORE OFTEN. I SEE PEOPLE RAID LONG’S FOR
PLASTIC WATER BOTTLES. BUY COLLAPSABLE, BIG 5-GALLON
WATER-JUST. GET A FEW OF THEM.
FILL THEM UP WITH TAP WATER. BETTER WATER AND SUSTAINABLE
GUY, WE HATE TO SEE ALL OF THAT PLASTIC GOING INTO THE WASTE
STREAM. LESS THAN A PENNY A GALLON.
>>Yunji: VISUAL REMINDER. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MAHALO TO ALL OF YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
MAHALO TO YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT –
AND WE THANK OUR GUESTS – ERNEST LAU, MANAGER AND CHIEF
ENGINEER OF THE HONOLULU BOARD OF WATER SUPPLY
ROSS SASAMURA, DIRECTOR AND CHIEF ENGINEER OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF FACILITY MAINTENANCE.
TIM HOUGHTON, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. AND.
JOSH STANBRO, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF
CLIMATE CHANGE, SUSTAINABILITY AND
RESILIENCY. NEXT WEEK INSIGHTS WILL BE
PRE-EMPTED TO MAKE ROOM FOR WHAT’S IT GOING TO TAKE, AN
EXECUTIVE FORUM ON MAKING LIFE BETTER IN HAWAIʻI.
LESLIE WILCOX WILL HOST A TWO-HOUR LIVE DISCUSSION WITH
TOP BUSINESS LEADERS WHO ARE TASKED WITH FINDING SOLUTIONS
TO LONGSTANDING PROBLEMS IN HAWAIʻI, LIKE THE LACK OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND JOBS THAT PAY A LIVING WAGE.
JOIN US NEXT WEEK FROM 8 TO 10 PM.
INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAIʻI. A HUI HO.

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