(h) TROM – 2.9 Justice

[Justice] The language we use in the monetary
system is subject to interpretation and our behaviour is created by
the enviroment, which is unequal. If we think the genes can predispose
certain behaviours, then the present justice system
is rendered useless. If the environment is the same for everyone,
and you take into account genes, then the justice system would be fairer. But why do you need a justice system?
Because there are injustices? But why there are injustices? Because of the enviroment,
products and services scarcity, because of inequality among people? In the monetary system
people are not equal. The differences between
social classes can be huge. So a justice system will not be useful
in the monetary system. It’s just an accepted idea, nothing more. Even worst sight: criminal behaviour. Now what is a serial killer? Is a serial killer a guy with a machine
gun that kills a lot of people? Or what is a killer?
What is a criminal? Well king Solomon had a thousand wifes,
he would be arrested as a bigamist today. So what you called “admirable behaviour”
in the past, doesn’t makes sense. I think that all lawyers would be considered
criminals in the future, this goes along with all politicians
will be considered criminals, because they say things
people like to hear. They don’t always speak the truth, because
that wouldn’t get them anywhere. So I would say that insurance company
that put out small print that is with criminal intentions. So what you call a criminal depends
of the culture you live in. When the romans used to
feed christians to lions that was not considered
criminal behaviour. Today it would be considered
criminal behaviour. So before you talk to people about:
there’s too much crime in the world, ask them what they mean by crime.
Do they mean false advertising? That mean what the drug
companies claim about their pills? Does that mean when the doctor
says you need an operation, is he trying to pay off a new boat or a house,
or do you really need the operation? In other words: it’s very hard
to tell criminal behaviour, and unless you define your terms of
what you mean by criminal behaviour, the latest definition of a criminal is
one who is caught. You can’t walk on to a judge and say, “Everything
you do is based on ignorance”. He says: “How do you see that?”
“How do you mean that?” I say, If you ever run into a judge that
talks that way, you have way there. I´ve never meet a person who says:
“How you mean that?” You know. So if you say to a judge: everything
you do is erroneous, unreal, you might as well be a head hunter, you putting people in jail, you judging people and
you know nothing about their backgrounds. He has no pity about them:
“He’s a criminal, he’s been in jail before.” That’s his yardstick, associated memory. So all our actions are based on associated memory,
do you understand what that means? Your experience, not the truth. There’s a lot of people that
can afford an attorney who can lock up the person claim “he rapes”, and they can say: “Well, didn’t you claim that
ones before in another court? Or make her look like a cheap prostitute, you know what I mean? If you could have a good enough attorney,
he can take anything anybody says and twist it around. Do you understand? And if you can afford only a mediocre attorney
you might wind up two years in jail. If you can afford a good attorney you might get two
weeks probation, you know, or a month probation. So attorneys must understand
by man alone they are corrupt. If you can hire a better attorney than I can, you are corrupt,
so is the attorney, for defending you. If he was honest, he’d said to the other attorney:
you got a point there, I can´t disagree with you. If the attorneys were honest. The punishment of this justice system is
to deprive man for what the system offers. Objects, services, access, information, trapping him in some rooms almost empty. But to get in possessions of these services
and goods in the first place you have to work for the monetary system. Do not forget that. So, the justice system deprives
a man from participation in the monetary system, locking him into a virtually
empty room for a period of time. Let’s see the effects that prisons have
among prisoners and guards. In the early 1970s, an experiment of the psychology of
imprisoned men was carried out of Stanford University by psychologist Zimbardo and his colleagues, who created their own jail
in the basement of the Stanford psychology building. The students who volunteered for the study were carefully tested. Each had to be psychologically and physically healthy to participate. Some students were then randomly selected
to act as prisoners while others became guards. The researchers surprised the prisoners by having
them arrested at their homes and dormitories. The prisoners went by a series of rituals
to establish their new lowly status. They lived in tiny cells 24 hours a day cut
off from their usual surroundings. Prisoner 819 did a bad thing! Prisoner 819 did
a bad thing! Prisoner 819 did a bad thing! … The guards however only worked 8 hours shifts, and they returned to their normal routines
as students when off the job. What happens surprise everyone,
including Zimbardo. The illusion became the reality. The boundary between the world these persons were
playing and his real personal identity was erased. Nice boys became brutal guards, healthy kids got sick. Active ones became passive and zombie like prisoners. The situation became so overpowering that many of the prisoners developed extreme
stress reactions and had to be released. …(incomprehensible) I can’t go, to a doctor, anything I can’t dinner… I don´t know how to explain…
Stop it! I wanna go out!!! Now!!! damn it… Stop! You don’t know,
you don’t know… Jesus Christ. I´m pulling up inside.
Don’t you know? Similar sort were at the end of only 36 hours into the study, each day after that another prisioner had a similar reaction. And so at the end of 5 days we had 5 kids. Kids we choosed because they were normal
and healthy, having emotional breakdowns. But no one ever said: I quit the experiment. They had lost all perspectives. What kind of guard would you be?
Sadistic or supportive? Would you be a conforming prisoner,
or a heroic resistant? The prison study, like Milgram’s experiment,
is not typical of research in social psychology. Some psychologists feel those studies violate ethical
guidelines, it should never have been done. At times even Zimbardo forgot it was an experiment
and enacted like a prison warden. Though the experiment was
mentalized two weeks, it was called off after 6 days. And I’m giving a role, I mean a job, say your job is to keep these people in line, then you’re not similar to that person
except you are acting a different role. You really become that person, what you put on that guard
uniform, you put on the glasses, you pick the knife stick, and you know, you act a part,
that’s your costume, and you have to act accordingly,
when you put it on. I really thought that I was incapable
of this kind of behaviour. I was… surprised, I was displeased to find out
that i could… I could really be a…. that I could act in a way I was so… so absolutely unaccustomed to anything
I would even really dream of doing, and how I was doing it,
I didn’t feel any regret, I didn’t feel any guilt to this…
only after, aftewards I began to reflect on what i had done,
I began to… this behavior began to dominate and I realize this was… this was a part of me
I hadn’t really noticed before. It feels as a prisoner. I don´t… regarded
some experiment or a simulation, but just a prison that was run by psychologists
instead of run by the state. I began to feel that… the identity,
that the person that I was that had decided to go to prison
was distant from me, was removed… so finally…
I wasn’t that… I was 416 I was really my number… and 416 was
going to have to decide what to do. It let me in on some knowledge
that I’ve never experienced first hand. I read about it, I read a lot about it, but I’ve never experienced this first hand,
I’ve never seen someone turn that way. And I know you are a nice guy, you know? You understand? I do,
I do know you are a nice guy. I don’t get that because
I know what you can turn into, I know what you are willing to do,
if you say: “Oh well I’m not gonna hurt anybody, oh well it’s
a limited situation, it’s over in two weeks”. -Well, you in position what
would you do then? -I don’t know. [Alternative solutions] The solution could be an attempt
to escape the situations that requires justice: prevention. Again, education, and for extreme cases,
for example mental illness, medical aid. The monetary system can not
prevent such situations because people aren’t considered equal. There can be large differences
between social classes. Environment creates behaviour. Predisposing genes are triggered
by the environment. Language is subject to interpretation. Today’s environment is uneven. With these influences,
a justice system is useless. Subtitles by the Amara.org community

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